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Old 03-14-2018, 11:40 AM   #211
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Cards release the Honey Badger...
Tyrann Mathieu released: Steelers and four other teams that would be great fits
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Old 03-14-2018, 11:46 AM   #212
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teams releasing players because of potential guaranteed money sucks. It's a power play to prevent guaranteed contracts to become the norm in the NFL (as it is in just about all other sports).
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teams releasing players because of potential guaranteed money sucks. It's a power play to prevent guaranteed contracts to become the norm in the NFL (as it is in just about all other sports).
Cousins may just be setting the new order with his guaranteed contract?
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Cousins may just be setting the new order with his guaranteed contract?
maybe, maybe not. maybe it'll cause even more pushback for other contracts to resist this trend. I heard the agent for Cousins also represents Matt Ryan...let's see the direction this goes.
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teams releasing players because of potential guaranteed money sucks. It's a power play to prevent guaranteed contracts to become the norm in the NFL (as it is in just about all other sports).
The Cards look like they are going to take some huge steps backward this year. Arians retirement being the worst of it.

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Cousins may just be setting the new order with his guaranteed contract?
What happens if he gets a guranteed contract and ends up being a dud?
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What happens if he gets a guranteed contract and ends up being a dud?
then he gets paid the amount he was promised? what exactly is wrong with that?
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then he gets paid the amount he was promised? what exactly is wrong with that?
Not the questions I was asking. I got no skin in his performance so I don't care if he gets paid.

It was more a question about the risk involved with guaranteed contracts. As in not getting return on the investment in one way or another.
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Not the questions I was asking. I got no skin in his performance so I don't care if he gets paid.

It was more a question about the risk involved with guaranteed contracts. As in not getting return on the investment in one way or another.
so, you don't care if he gets paid...but you care if he gets paid? I think my answer still answers that.

There is always risk. NFL is the only major sport that places the risk squarely on the player.
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now Raiders talking about signing Nelson and cutting Crabtree
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Not the questions I was asking. I got no skin in his performance so I don't care if he gets paid.

It was more a question about the risk involved with guaranteed contracts. As in not getting return on the investment in one way or another.
I think NFL owners have hedged their risk by resisting guaranteed contracts. 3 years is about right to know if you have a stud or dud, and then to re-negotiate accordingly. The big intangible is injury.

I won't feel bad if this is the future.
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so, you don't care if he gets paid...but you care if he gets paid? I think my answer still answers that.

There is always risk. NFL is the only major sport that places the risk squarely on the player.
Right. The question at hand (or at least as I was interpreting it) is will fully guaranteed contracts become the norm in the NFL if Cousins gets one? Will it become more common? One of the things that hinges on is whether or not the team thinks they got their monies' worth out of the deal. If teams feel like they are getting burned then fully guaranteed contracts won't take hold.

That's all I was saying. It doesn't really have much to do with Cousins but he's the one getting the contract so he's the guinea pig. I don't much care that it's him.
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I think NFL owners have hedged their risk by resisting guaranteed contracts. 3 years is about right to know if you have a stud or dud, and then to re-negotiate accordingly. The big intangible is injury.

I won't feel bad if this is the future.
I don't really care one way or the other. I think the owners are getting way more than their share of the pie right now but that's my own personal view. I don't watch/pay-attention-to football because I'm interested in the contracts.
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They won't become the norm for anybody but QBs, and even that will be rare.

With a salary cap league it's just not sustainable. All it will take is one majory injury to a guy with a guaranteed deal to fuck over a franchise for 5 years.
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