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Old 08-02-2018, 08:06 AM   #16
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Oh, I thought I heard they add weight every 3 races someplace? Never heard of a rev limit thing....

Understand about Rea; he should be in MotoGP. His talent is a notch up on everyone in SBK. But seeing KAW win a lot has been rare over the decades so us KAW fans are in heaven these days...

I also have been pretty bored w/ManiacM's dominance. It's happened before as mentioned above. I just wish for the years of yesterday....Rainey, Lawson, Schwantz, Spencer....Roberts/Sheene....etc. Those were the best years that I can recall...
I have never been a big fan of Kawasaki before. But even with the Rev Limiting thing, Kawasaki still wins so I have gained much respect for Kawasaki.

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Old 08-02-2018, 08:15 AM   #17
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frame, suspension, AND engine parts? Good gawd, make it more dangerous to ride Dorna. Idiots...

I had no idea it went that deep. Seems weight additions or just the rev limit would be enough?
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Old 08-02-2018, 08:40 AM   #18
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Regarding motoGP races, in the Argentine round of this year, MM93 came back from 17th position to the top 5 was a proof that the young man is above the pack.

However, in the process, after almost knocking Scott Redding out of the race and causing Valentino Rossi to crash, the fact that MM93 didn't get a penalty (or did he ?) left me perplexed !

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Old 08-02-2018, 08:42 AM   #19
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frame, suspension, AND engine parts? Good gawd, make it more dangerous to ride Dorna. Idiots...

I had no idea it went that deep. Seems weight additions or just the rev limit would be enough?
There is nothing making anything more dangerous.

WSBK is trying to close the gap between the haves and have-nots so they specified that factory teams have to make engine, chassis and suspension components the factory team uses available to everyone who runs that brand of bike. Whether or not this is the right path is another discussion but that is what the rules are.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:39 AM   #20
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Moto GP has gotten better, but I DO love WSBK !

I don't follow much of the behind scenes goings on, but from what I've heard, some of the commentators attribute Rea's great success may be due to his Crew chief.

Anyone else hear about this guy?

Sorry, don't recall his name ... I "think" it's an Italian guy?. So, word is it's his incredible set up of the bike that has really helped Rea succeed.

No question Rea is a brilliant rider on any bike, but having a genius doing your set up can really help.
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Rea's Spanish crew chief Pere Riba was a pretty good racer running up front in World Supersport when the field was deep and there was a lot manufacturer support. I think he raced a few 500GP races, too. Riba is a very good crew chief and he and Rea have definitely gelled.
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Regarding motoGP races, in the Argentine round of this year, MM93 came back from 17th position to the top 5 was a proof that the young man is above the pack.

However, in the process, after almost knocking Scott Redding out of the race and causing Valentino Rossi to crash, the fact that MM93 didn't get a penalty (or did he ?) left me perplexed !
I believe he was penalized four times. Three times at the Argentina race. Don't know about any Redding incident. Are you thinking of A. Espargaro?

A. He had the ride through the pits because of the bike stalling on the starting line.

B. He had to go back a spot (he went back two) after the incident with Espargaro.

C. He got a thirty second penalty at the end, because they couldn't give him another ride-through, since it was the last lap of the race for hitting Rossi.

D. I contend he got the penalty in COTA because of Argentina. Several riders, including the ones involved with MM in Argentina have done the same thing as MM did at COTA with no penality.
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Old 08-02-2018, 03:05 PM   #23
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I believe he was penalized four times. Three times at the Argentina race. Don't know about any Redding incident. Are you thinking of A. Espargaro?

A. He had the ride through the pits because of the bike stalling on the starting line.

B. He had to go back a spot (he went back two) after the incident with Espargaro.

C. He got a thirty second penalty at the end, because they couldn't give him another ride-through, since it was the last lap of the race for hitting Rossi.

D. I contend he got the penalty in COTA because of Argentina. Several riders, including the ones involved with MM in Argentina have done the same thing as MM did at COTA with no penality.
Thanks for detailed info.

With the articles such as the one below, it seemed to me that he deserved a more severe penalty :

https://www.autosport.com/motogp/new...e-on-probation

Anyhow, we are digressing ...
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The years Melandri was on the BMW were the BEST years. Absolute insanity for 2-3 years in that series.
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I initially didn't pay much attention to Melandri. But after watching so many races, he is definitely one of the guys who make the races interesting to watch !
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The years Melandri was on the BMW were the BEST years. Absolute insanity for 2-3 years in that series.
Naahhh… the best years were '93 to '02, the Fogarty vs Everybody years, and when he "retired", the Edwards/Bayliss battles.
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