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Old 08-06-2017, 02:09 PM   #61
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These are 10/325s, aka the good ones.

My recollection is that Oxycodone by itself is Schedule II, but if you mix in tylenol it's Schedule III, so they prescribe Percocet rather than Oxycontin IR (what they gave me in the hospital once I no longer needed IV Dilaudid) because it makes for less paperwork.
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These are 10/325s, aka the good ones.

My recollection is that Oxycodone by itself is Schedule II, but if you mix in tylenol it's Schedule III, so they prescribe Percocet rather than Oxycontin IR (what they gave me in the hospital once I no longer needed IV Dilaudid) because it makes for less paperwork.
They are both Schedule II

IV Dilaudid is amazing!
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Old 08-07-2017, 08:07 AM   #63
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They are both Schedule II

IV Dilaudid is amazing!
They gave that to me for an upper GI years ago, most amazing high I have ever had. Didn't mind the 4ft tube going down my throat at all.
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They are both Schedule II

IV Dilaudid is amazing!
I know there's some reason that it's easier for them to prescribe Percocet vs Oxycontin, I thought that was it but I guess not.

Looking it up I found why I thought that: it used to be that hydorocone + tylenol (the combination that's in Vicodin) was III while straight hydrocodone was II, but I guess that changed in late 2014. Not sure if there was ever a similar rule for oxycodone.

I wonder why it is that they gave me straight oxycodone in the hospital, and then prescribed 10/325 oxycodone/apap.

And yes, IV dilaudid is amazing... much better than IV fentanyl
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I wonder why it is that they gave me straight oxycodone in the hospital, and then prescribed 10/325 oxycodone/apap.
It probably raises less red flags to prescribe combo opioid/acetaminophen than to prescribe straight opioids. Also less potential for abuse since taking too much Tylenol can make you sick.
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Old 02-22-2018, 09:52 PM   #66
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The fewer you have, the less likely you are to get guff. An officer is much more likely to take your word for it that it's yours if you only have one or two pills. Contrast this with a baggie full of them, without a label or any sort of accompanying documentation. What would you think? And even if the LEO is feeling puckish and decides to confiscate them, it's not that big a deal for you. I only carry around one, or at MOST two, because people are shit, and steal them.

Most pharmacies these days provide looseleaf copies of the prescription label. I keep one in my wallet.
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i gave up reading all the bs in this thread.

who really carries around pills in a container other than the one from the pharmacy?
forget just laying around on a car seat.

who carries around any paperwork about said pills?

many Drs transmit the script to the phrmacy, i never see any paper. have not for years.
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Old 02-25-2018, 10:50 AM   #68
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who really carries around pills in a container other than the one from the pharmacy?
forget just laying around on a car seat.
According to countless episodes of Cops it seems to be a common occurrence among a certain segment of society...

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who carries around any paperwork about said pills?
If you carry your prescription in the bottle or container it came in from the pharmacy it has your prescription information on the label...

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many Drs transmit the script to the phrmacy, i never see any paper. have not for years.
See above: the label has the prescription information on it.
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The fewer you have, the less likely you are to get guff. An officer is much more likely to take your word for it that it's yours if you only have one or two pills. Contrast this with a baggie full of them, without a label or any sort of accompanying documentation. What would you think? And even if the LEO is feeling puckish and decides to confiscate them, it's not that big a deal for you. I only carry around one, or at MOST two, because people are shit, and steal them.

Most pharmacies these days provide looseleaf copies of the prescription label. I keep one in my wallet.
While it's the law to only carry them in prescribed container, nearly everyone violates this. Hell, pharmacies sell alternate containers and day of the week pill holders and such.

Anyways, smartphones have made looking stuff up so much easier out in the field. I'm generally only concerned with those pills that are scheduled addictive controlled substances, since those are the types often possessed illegally and in conjunction with other street drugs. I can look the pill up easily and determine what it is, within reason, right out in the field on a phone. (Certainly there are black market drugs out there that contain one substance, but are manufactured to look like another, but, in general, it's fairly reasonable to know what you likely have.)

Bottom line, I'm not terribly concerned about possession not in the administered container. And I'm much more inclined to take someone's word that they have a prescription for the cholesterol, blood pressure, or diabetes medications they possess without proof of a prescription, as compared to the pocket full of hydrocodone or oxycodone, etc.

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i gave up reading all the bs in this thread.

who really carries around pills in a container other than the one from the pharmacy?
forget just laying around on a car seat.

who carries around any paperwork about said pills?

many Drs transmit the script to the phrmacy, i never see any paper. have not for years.
In addition to the label on the container, as mentioned above, pharmacies, by law, have to provide a printout of the medication dispensed. That printout contains the prescription information as well as a description of the medication and common side effects, etc. So you should have duplicate proof of every single prescribed medication.
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Anyways, smartphones have made looking stuff up so much easier out in the field. I'm generally only concerned with those pills that are scheduled addictive controlled substances, since those are the types often possessed illegally and in conjunction with other street drugs. I can look the pill up easily and determine what it is, within reason, right out in the field on a phone. (Certainly there are black market drugs out there that contain one substance, but are manufactured to look like another, but, in general, it's fairly reasonable to know what you likely have.).
My post was written from the perspective of someone who has a prescription for a CII drug.
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My post was written from the perspective of someone who has a prescription for a CII drug.
I don't think any officer would give any grief if one had a paper script copy in the wallet to show. Another thought would be to take a photo of the looseleaf prescription label so it's available if you ever have to access it for a form of proof.

Anyone I've ever charged with possession of CII pills did not have a prescription for them.
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I also suspect you aren't going to arrest my 85 year old grandmother for having some prescription pain meds (along with other prescription meds) in her pill case even if she has no paperwork for it with her
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Guys.....

Police are not interested in arresting grandmothers and the disabled for pills outside of prescription. We are looking for the crooks who are doing other stuff.

I really don’t care about the pills (or meth, or heroin, or crack) in and of itself. I care about the quality of life crimes that those users commit to support their habits. The crimes that affect YOU. Car burglaries, identity theft, shoplifting, car theft, residential burglaries.

If these people sat in their homes and did their drugs without ever leaving and affecting the community, no one would care.
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I travel with prescribed Sched 2 drugs, all over the USA , and world.

My advice: Copy your prescription, or carry a letter from your doctor describing what you take and what they are for.
If you want to be extra careful, also make a copy of the Physicans Desk Reference description and Photo of those drugs if you carry them in a generic container.

Most LEOs, Customs Officers and TSA staff don't really give a shit about your drugs.
One thing, though, if you ever go to Idaho, don't bring any pot with you, medical or not.

BTW: What about those of us who *Are" Disabled grandmothers?

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They gave that to me for an upper GI years ago, most amazing high I have ever had. Didn't mind the 4ft tube going down my throat at all.
Word. Dilaudid made me go from the worst pain in my life to time of my life in 5 minutes.
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