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Old 07-02-2018, 10:06 PM   #16
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Can I get pulled over for that??
My gut says no. They are not required.
You could get pulled over for it for an honest mistake. 24252(A) VC is the common go-to for burnt out bulbs, and someone may not know that your running lights aren't required.

I wouldn't stress it. Most cops, even traffic cops, will be looking for other violations.
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Old 07-03-2018, 08:52 AM   #17
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Technically there is a VC section for all lights in working order, but you generally will not get stopped or cited for that.
Doesnít that only apply to required lighting?
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Old 07-03-2018, 09:31 AM   #18
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Doesnít that only apply to required lighting?
Yeah.
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Old 07-03-2018, 04:16 PM   #19
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Hmmmm, 65k, running light out, needs clutch, probably brake pads-n-rotors, tires, and supercharger too...

Trade ya my K1300S for your Caddy.
You know you really wanted one in the fastest color!

If your really wanting to pull that headlight yourself this may help.

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Now if it's a Wagon I'll toss in an extra grand just to sweeten the deal!

Oh, wait... what color is your "V"?
The 2011 CTSV is black, has a supercharger with a 6 speed, high flow air system and an exhaust system the burbles so sweet... and I have a K1300s so.. no thanks, but appreciate your enthusiasm.

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Doesnít that only apply to required lighting?
Iíve never had an issue and for years in court have seen people stopped whether for a fix it ticket or a stop that led to an arrest and PC was 24252 for a DRL our. The code is vague. But the way I was trained was any light installed by manufacturer is required to be in working order, therefore a DRL our is a violation.
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I’ve never had an issue and for years in court have seen people stopped whether for a fix it ticket or a stop that led to an arrest and PC was 24252 for a DRL our. The code is vague. But the way I was trained was any light installed by manufacturer is required to be in working order, therefore a DRL our is a violation.
How is it vague? CVC 24252(a) specifically states "All lighting equipment of a required type installed on a vehicle". Did DRLs all of a sudden become required equipment per the vehicle code? If so, a whole lot of vehicles on the road are in violation.
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How is it vague? CVC 24252(a) specifically states "All lighting equipment of a required type installed on a vehicle". Did DRLs all of a sudden become required equipment per the vehicle code? If so, a whole lot of vehicles on the road are in violation.
Define required. Then by whom? California , The Manufacturer, the Fed?

The vehicle code doesnít mention DRLís though it does mention auxiliary lamps and separates that from fog lamps. A DRL could be an auxillary lamp, but not im not calling it that. Most of the codes are very outdated and some have not been updated for decades. Either way, I have my opinion and youíre free to have yours.
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How about FMVSS 108? DRLs aren't required by the feds, nor the state of California. The only thing FMVSS 108 stipulates is that if a manufacturer does equip a vehicle with DRLs, they're required to meet the standards of 108. However, that still doesn't mean that they're required in any way.
I'm not sure how else the CVC applies in the case of "required" equipment and can't fathom how an adjudicator can sustain an argument that something is "required" when there's no standard that actually requires it at a state or federal level.

But you're right, it's just an opinion.
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Seems like a low-odds-of-problem and small-consequences kind of issue. I'd drive the car. If you get pulled over, and you follow the advice of "only break one law at a time", the worst you get is a fix-it ticket which is fightable if you're feeling froggy.
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To me the higher risk is getting rear ended since there are no tail lights on many cars with only the DRLs on (whether one is burned out or not).

I see people every morning during my commute with DRLs on only (thinking that the headlights are on) with no tail lights.

I think it is idiotic to not require tail lights to be on when only DRLs are on.

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To me the higher risk is getting rear ended since there are no tail lights on many cars with only the DRLs on (whether one is burned out or not).

I see people every morning during my commute with DRLs on only (thinking that the headlights are on) with no tail lights.

I think it is idiotic to not require tail lights to be on when only DRLs are on.

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Well, DLRs aren't headlights, so... Also makes it easier to find those impaired drivers.
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