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Old 04-04-2018, 02:13 PM   #1
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DMV leniency

Hey there - long time BARF member, infrequent poster.

I did search the DMV site & the LEO forum before posting.

Back story: about 5 years ago, I was diagnosed with kidney failure, and 5 months later, my wife diagnosed with breast cancer. Literally years of constant medical fuckery ensue. And we're self-employed, so there was a pretty huge financial hit as well - we're very much thankful for continued indoor living.

As one might imagine, things were let slide which shouldn't have been let slide.

We have two vehicles which were purchased *right* before we got sick, and were never registered in our names.

Things are looking up, we're both healthy now, and trying to get back up to speed on Adulting.

I have two questions:

1) Has anyone had any success petitioning DMV for leniency based on a hardship? I know that DMV Field Agents were recently dis-empowered for waiving fees and penalties, so one would hope there is some process in place to deal with this. Any advice?

2) If I were to sell the vehicles outside of California, would I still be on the hook for the
fees & penalties since it's never been registered in my name.

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Old 04-04-2018, 07:41 PM   #2
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If you sell the vehicles in another State, there would be no late fees due in the other State.

Do you have the title signed by the former owner?
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Old 04-07-2018, 12:38 AM   #3
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I've never heard of such a thing, but just because I haven't heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:57 AM   #4
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I do know of a person who purchased a classic vehicle which had been a CA vehicle it's whole life, and had sat in a barn for over 20 years accruing thousands of dollars in back fees.

He was able to negotiate with DMV to waive all the back fees.

He made the point that he'd just sell the vehicle out of state before paying the back fees, (actually, his words were "I'd rather light it on fire than pay that much.") and wouldn't DMV rather have the ongoing income.

I know it's not the same thing, and maybe it's false hope.
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Old 04-09-2018, 12:30 PM   #5
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I too would be interested in learning more about this topic of dmv leniency!


If I may add another question-

If I sold it in another state and where there aren't any back-fees, would the same back-fees just reappear if I bought it back from the out-of-state buyer?
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Old 04-09-2018, 12:58 PM   #6
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IIRC, after 7 (10?) years, an unregistered vehicle falls out of the system and with it the backfees.
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Old 04-09-2018, 01:04 PM   #7
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My recollection is that they stopped doing that a while ago, they have no reason to let it drop out of the system given how cheap storage is.
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Old 04-12-2018, 04:16 PM   #8
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My recollection is that they stopped doing that a while ago, they have no reason to let it drop out of the system given how cheap storage is.
Which is total bullshit. Straight up money grab from the DMV.
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Old 04-12-2018, 07:47 PM   #9
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Which is total bullshit. Straight up money grab from the DMV.
You say that like its a surprise?
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Old 04-09-2018, 01:05 PM   #10
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Recently a friend of mine negotiated to consider the non-operating nominal class for several years of non-registration of a vehicle, it worked.
Simple answer is "YES", you can negotiate. If one DMV had the head tight, try another DMV.. one of them may click.. since DMVs work headless.
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Old 04-09-2018, 04:54 PM   #11
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It may help if you can somehow prove that they have not been driven while un-registered.

Have you checked how much the fees are going to be?
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:19 AM   #12
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I have absolutely been able to negotiate lower DMV back fees.

Go make an appointment, bring all your documents and be ready to plea your case.

The person behind the counter has the ability to lower by a certain percentage, but the on duty supervisor can even do more.
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I'm having a heart attack from not-surprised.
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Old 04-16-2018, 10:35 PM   #14
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About 2 years ago I bought a gixxer with about 800 in back fees that were a surprise to me. I acted stunned and the clerk had me write a short statement about hardship. I did, she showed the supervisor and they cut the fees in half.
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Old 04-25-2018, 02:48 PM   #15
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Well ...

... They did renew my license. That's lenient.

Every day is "Be nice to public servants" Day. I find that a little courtesy and respect goes a long way with people who face a never-ending stream of self-centered poopy-pants cry babies for like 35,000 a year.

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