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Old 03-31-2013, 12:25 PM   #151
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Lol.

No need to get upset. I'm not saying its a bad idea to get the permit. I'm just saying I'm not convinced its required when in a truck and was trying to clarify what PNO charges are.

Do what ya want, it ain't gonna hurt to have MORE paperwork. My personal take is that it's unnecessary, that's all.

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Old 03-31-2013, 04:50 PM   #152
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I don't think there's an agreement as to whether or not it's illegal to transport your PNO'd bike in the bed of a pickup.

Nonetheless, that's not my concern. If you all want to play it safe and buy some random permit that no one, including every cop on the planet has any idea about, go for it. All I was trying to do is keep people from paying for their PNO every year.

For what it's worth. Not a single friend of mine or myself has ever had issues while transporting PNO'd bikes. We have, however, had registration / PNO status / green or red stickers checked; and had I only had a "transportation permit" and no other type of registration / PNO, I can guarantee it would have extended the discussion with the officer as I tried to explain why I was so intent on saving $15 when I bought a transportation permit and didnt PNO it.

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young man, an ignorance of the law is no excuse!!!


if you want to cancel street reg but keep it "accessible" (no penalties when you come back later) you still have to file a PNO, even with a transport permit.
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:11 PM   #153
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young man, an ignorance of the law is no excuse!!! if you want to cancel street reg but keep it "accessible" (no penalties when you come back later) you still have to file a PNO, even with a transport permit.
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Old 11-05-2018, 10:29 PM   #154
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Thread resurrection for clarification. I am looking at an out of state track bike (with over 7500 miles, not that it matters), and want to make sure I don't get blackflagged by CA DMV.

From my understanding, an out of state track bike (no lights, mirrors, etc) should be eligible for a CA "Title only" and a Motorcycle Transportation Permit. Because it is a track bike, I can submit a certificate of nonoperation instead of filing for PNO to get the Title only. All that the DMV would require is that the VIN and engine number be visible. This would allow me to sell it with a CA Title down the road to another track rider that would be valid for transfer (presumably to another Title only title). This route would also avoid the problem of increased miles on the odometer for people doing the regular title and PNO approach. Is that correct?

Alternatively, I should be able to just bolt up lights and mirrors and get a regular title. However, I would then need to either registration or go PNO, which has an issue with an increased odometer reading when selling in the future even if operated only on the track. Correct?

I just want to make sure I do not make a critical error before dropping money on an out of state bike. Thanks!
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