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Old 08-14-2018, 07:16 PM   #1
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old school steel framed bicycle, rider is 6'3"

My son, who is 6'3" (I am 5"11" or so) has been riding my 1987 56 cm Specialized Team Allez (built by Dave Tesch, on a one-year contract with Specialized). It's way too short for him but somehow he's digging it...

He has a correctly sized 2018 Specialaized Sequioa that he just bought. Obviously he has excellent taste in my Team Allez - and now wants one. With 100 or less (supposedly) having been made, lotsa luck to him.

Does anyone have a frame of comparable vintage (1987) and construction (Columbus SLX, BEAUTIFULLY lugged steel) to get rid of? Tesch, Moulton, Masi, DiNucci, Merz, Colnago etc.... 60 cm would probably be right for him.

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima...Tesch_1987.pdf - a cool article on Tesch.


I would like to build up a frameset with him with old-school Shimano Dura Ace or suitably high-end (for the period) components.

What do you have?

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Old 08-16-2018, 05:57 PM   #2
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I'm a little confused. Sounds like you're looking for a road frame, but deore xt is a mountain group on my recollection (started paying attention on the early 90s)
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:26 PM   #3
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I'm a little confused. Sounds like you're looking for a road frame, but deore xt is a mountain group on my recollection (started paying attention on the early 90s)
Dear Auntie: You are correct, I am the one that is confused. Dura Ace is what I should have written. Thanks for the correction, I have modified my post.

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Old 08-17-2018, 08:27 AM   #4
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No worries. I dont have anything for you but I do like poking around on the craigslist bikes section. 1990s steel mountain bikes are what I focus on but sometimes other things show up.

How about serotta?

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...673042338.html
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Old 08-17-2018, 10:05 AM   #5
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Serotta would be cool - that's a sweet bike!

My frame is a one-off as far as who manufactured them. Specialized contracted with Dave Tesch to produce both their Team Stumpjumper and Team Allez in 1987 only. It appears from various forums that between 68 to 100 of each were produced. Check this out:

http://chuck.kichline.com/bikes/Alle...am/default.htm

And here is a cool article from October 1987 about him:

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima...Tesch_1987.pdf

Thanks again for the interest, even though you don't road bike!

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No worries. I dont have anything for you but I do like poking around on the craigslist bikes section. 1990s steel mountain bikes are what I focus on but sometimes other things show up.

How about serotta?

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...673042338.html
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that's a neat bit of history, i'm hoping to stumble on an early bontrager one of these days with the riveted on cable stops. in the mean time i just browse.

i found that serotta searching "dura ace" and it happened to have a nice frame too.

you could steal groupsets from these and get a little money back reselling the frame

https://monterey.craigslist.org/bik/...650576481.html

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik...669266963.html
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Old 08-30-2018, 09:21 PM   #7
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I have a 60cm 1994 Specialized Allez Pro upgraded to 10 speed Ultegra

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Old 08-31-2018, 05:22 AM   #8
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There was a free mid 90s Stumpjumper on craigslist in SF a couple days ago. Large frame it looked like.

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There was a free mid 90s Stumpjumper on craigslist in SF a couple days ago. Large frame it looked like.

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Thanks for the tip, but I don't see it. Someone got lucky!
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:11 AM   #10
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a bit late to the thread, but are you still looking for a frame? I have a Roselli (small Italian manufacturer) that I bought in the mid 90s in Germany. It used to be my city assault bike I mean commuter. It is 56cm but worked great for me, I am 6'3''
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Serotta Colorado II available if you are still looking. 58cm.

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Serotta Colorado II available if you are still looking. 58cm.

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That is one sweet bike! I will let him know. Too bad I'm not a couple inches taller....

Would you mind sharing the price? If not publicly would you p.m. me please?
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:25 AM   #13
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That is one sweet bike! I will let him know. Too bad I'm not a couple inches taller....

Would you mind sharing the price? If not publicly would you p.m. me please?
I did send an email (via BARF) with price and details... but perhaps it didn't go through.

Anyway, here's a few details:

- Brakes, stem, head set, shifters (9 speed indexing) are almost new Dura Ace
- crank set, almost new Ultegra
- rear derailleur XTR to match MTB cassette (gearing is great for climbing)
- wheelset is Velocity

With the flat bar the bike fits me (5'10) very well. With a traditional drop road bar its a good fit for someone 6'+

Only issue is the QR rear axle should be swapped for a solid axle as the rear wheel can shift under heavy pedaling due to the dropouts being old style (near horizontal).

Overall the frame is in great condition for its age, with some paint chips and rub marks on the right chain stay, but otherwise very nice.

The bike is a pleasure to ride and always gets compliments from other riders. Only selling because of medical issue that prevent me from riding very much.

I'd like to get $1200. Located in Livermore, or can bring to Mountain View on weekdays.

thanks,
Julian

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