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Old 11-21-2018, 05:47 PM   #31
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As I've said before, I'm not exactly sure who the GOAT is (either Rossi or Ago) but Marquez is the GORN.

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Old 11-21-2018, 06:35 PM   #32
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As I've said before, I'm not exactly sure who the GOAT is (either Rossi or Ago) but Marquez is the GORN.

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Old 11-25-2018, 01:19 PM   #33
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MM may one day be the GOAT, but certainly not yet. For now it's still Rossi. 39 years old and still placed 3rd on a bike that just isn't as good.

How many more championships would Rossi have won had he stayed with Honda instead of switching? It was the best bike, Yamaha hadn't won a single race in years prior to Rossi.

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Old 11-25-2018, 04:37 PM   #34
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Old 11-26-2018, 09:32 AM   #35
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MM may one day be the GOAT, but certainly not yet. For now it's still Rossi. 39 years old and still placed 3rd on a bike that just isn't as good.

How many more championships would Rossi have won had he stayed with Honda instead of switching? It was the best bike, Yamaha hadn't won a single race in years prior to Rossi.
not many more. he'd have won in 2006 for sure. but the RCV wasnt the best bike from 2007-2010 IMO when Rossi won 2 on the Yamaha. the RCV and M1 were about even from 2011 until 2015. its only in this current era of Michelins and Spec ECU that the RCV is better than the M1.

really, Rossi's numbers would have been more improved by NOT going to Ducati.
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Old 11-26-2018, 11:10 AM   #36
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It's too bad that Gigi came to Ducati's program after Rossi left. It could have been pretty interesting had Gigi and Rossi came in at the same time.
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Old 11-27-2018, 07:41 PM   #37
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.... the RCV and M1 were about even from 2011 until 2015. its only in this current era of Michelins and Spec ECU that the RCV is better than the M1.

really, Rossi's numbers would have been more improved by NOT going to Ducati.
Rossi apology talk, as usual for barf. The RCV hasn't been that great, otherwise Pedrosa and company would have better stats. The difference is obvious. It is Marc Marquez. Yamahas beat Hondas every year, except for MM. This year, THREE beat Crutchlow, who came in seventh.
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Rossi apology talk, as usual for barf. The RCV hasn't been that great, otherwise Pedrosa and company would have better stats. The difference is obvious. It is Marc Marquez. Yamahas beat Hondas every year, except for MM. This year, THREE beat Crutchlow, who came in seventh.
Pedrosa hasnt ever really got along with these Michelins or the Spec ECU. he was generally only competitive at hot tracks when he can finally get enough heat into the tires AND the rest struggle with too much heat. hes the outlier here, which makes him less relevant to this convo.

speaking of Cal... who won more races this year, Cal or Rossi?

u know whats a better comparison than Cal vs Rossi... Cal vs Zarco. Sat RCV vs Sat M1, both with some factory support and maybe even equally talented riders. Cal missed 3 rounds and finished 10pts behind Zarco.

Jorge is going to be a great yardstick for the RCV next year. if he wins early in the season or even just wins before any M1, there wont be anything to argue anymore.
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Rossi apology talk, as usual for barf. The RCV hasn't been that great, otherwise Pedrosa and company would have better stats. The difference is obvious. It is Marc Marquez. Yamahas beat Hondas every year, except for MM. This year, THREE beat Crutchlow, who came in seventh.
the RCV definitely did not start off well this year. But the working relationship between rider and crew and the ability to create solutions instead of panic did them well. And as Dani could attest, Marc was #1 rider and engineering and modifications went to his style with efforts to get Dani somewhat competitive.

Making a tank for Jorge is much different than making a new frame or geometry setup from Marc and the satellite bikes (whether they are current model or not). So it will be interesting to see how the year goes and who becomes the HRC #1.
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