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Old 12-18-2018, 10:06 PM   #1
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Unregistering a bike

I have a resistered bike which I’m considering converting to track only use. Do I need to do anything to “unregister” the vehicle or can I get away with simply ignoring registration and insurance renewals? Do I need to register as PNO even if I never plan on converting back to road legal?
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:17 PM   #2
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File the PNO or it will continue to accrue more and more past due registration fees
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:20 AM   #3
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But do the past due fees mean anything if you never register again? What do you do when a vehicle is destroyed or moved out of state? Certainly you don’t file a PNO then.
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:12 AM   #4
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I think it's called... Affidavit of Non-Use.

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This online service allows you to notify the DMV that the currently registered vehicle is not being operated or parked on any California roadway and the liability coverage has been cancelled to avoid registration suspension.
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Old 12-19-2018, 09:01 AM   #5
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Old 12-19-2018, 09:05 AM   #6
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Seems like a Planned non Operation will keep its resale value intact. Too many bike owners let the Reg lapse and results in back fees and financially non viable Bike.
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:21 AM   #7
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What do people do with financially nonviable vehicles?
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Old 12-19-2018, 11:11 AM   #8
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What do people do with financially nonviable vehicles?
You notify the DMV of a Total Loss Salvage or Nonrepairable vehicle. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/de...s/howto/htvr16
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PNO allows you to tow the bike, right? I thought if it's not registered it can't even be towed.
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PNO allows you to tow the bike, right? I thought if it's not registered it can't even be towed.
The definition of PNO means that the vehicle will not be driven, towed, stored, or parked on public roads or highways for the entire registration year. I'm not a lawyer or cop, but I'm pretty sure that towing means with one or more axles on ground, so that the vehicle is still on the roadway. Towing a PNO vehicle entirely upon an open trailer is fine.
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The definition of PNO means that the vehicle will not be driven, towed, stored, or parked on public roads or highways for the entire registration year. I'm not a lawyer or cop, but I'm pretty sure that towing means with one or more axles on ground, so that the vehicle is still on the roadway. Towing a PNO vehicle entirely upon an open trailer is fine.
Not sure that's accurate, but my memory is fuzzy. I think you need to get a "movement permit" to put a PNO vehicle on any roadway, even in a truck or trailer.

Of course, I can't imagine getting stopped solely for having a bike in a trailer or truck. Even if you get stopped, it would be a stretch for the LEO to hit you for transporting the bike...just don't deserve the extra attention.
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:33 PM   #12
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Pretty sure that if the PNO vehicle is not on the pavement, no permit is required.

Keep in mind most PNO vehicles are cars, trailers and motorhomes that towing means will still be on the roadway.

Motorcycles are the exception that towing does not have any part of the vehicle on the road.
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Old 12-20-2018, 10:25 PM   #13
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I have a resistered bike which I’m considering converting to track only use. Do I need to do anything to “unregister” the vehicle or can I get away with simply ignoring registration and insurance renewals? Do I need to register as PNO even if I never plan on converting back to road legal?
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Racing Motorcycles (CVC §38088)
OHV motorcycles used solely in organized racing or competitive events on a closed course such as speedways, racetracks, or defined routes of travel (on or off highway) cannot be registered. However, they may be issued a permit for a fee that allows transportation to/from course events. A closed course is not available for vehicle access by the general public other than event participants (CVC §38014). The permit is a sticker that must be mounted on the vehicle in a clearly visible location and remains valid until the vehicle is sold or dismantled.
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PNO it. Makes it easier all the way around. Costs $22 once. You can then sell it with a title if you want to. Don't let that lapse.
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