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Old 03-01-2017, 09:32 AM   #46
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For anyone that's interested in making their own completely organic soil, water only, no pH adjustment ever required, so no need to ever add nutrients...

I have a handwritten shopping list thats about 5 years old I found in a drawer recently and it worked GREAT for my garden. (best results I ever had)

Base soil mix:
- 1 Part canadian peat moss
- 1 Part perlite
- 1 Part Earthworm castings or compost --> if available "Bu's Blend Organic" or "Farmer D's Organic"
- Dolomite Lime or garden lime (1 CUP per CuFT)
- Azomite / Glacial Dust / Rock (4CUPS per CuFT) <--- not necessary but better to have

A gardening supply store should have all of the following which you mix together before mixing in with soil:

Fertilizer/Nutrients:

neem meal (1 cup)
alfalfa meal (1 cup)
crab meal (1 cup)
kelp meal (2 cups)

OR if you're too lazy to search for the right meals because some stores may not carry them... you can substitute all of them for Espoma "Tomato/Garden/Plant Tone" fertilizer.. I don't recommend this though, get the the meals listed above!


^^ Mix these together seperately and then add 2-3 cups of the mix per cuFT of soil and then save the rest as a topdressing


Once everything is mixed together add a little bit of water to your new soil and let it sit for a couple weeks. Keep it moist, but not "too moist" You will see (beneficial) fungi networks grow and that's EXACTLY what you want to see, nature doing it's thing. Stir every couple days and add a little bit more water.

After about 2-4 weeks your new soil is thriving with beneficial bacteria and fungi that will immensely help your plants (of basically any variety) grow... and you've saved money!

I'm telling you guys, I've tried store bought soil of both the organic non-organic variety. I've tried adding chemical fertilizers, I've tried natural fertilizers, but nothing ever compared to the grows I did with this mix.

Water only.
NO ph monitoring or adjusting needed. Nature takes care of it.


Your end result will be great, I'm sure of it.

edit: Once I made the switch I will never go back to anything else. It might sound too good to be true, but after the initial "work" your growing life becomes much easier. You've provided nature with all the nutrients and things it needs to grow, so as long as it has water it will continue to thrive. I've also heard of people adding earthworms straight into the soil as well during grow cycles, although I've never done it.

Has anyone else made or used a similar mix, and can back me up?

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Old 03-01-2017, 09:49 AM   #47
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For anyone that's interested in making their own completely organic soil, water only, no pH adjustment ever required, so no need to ever add nutrients...

I have a handwritten shopping list thats about 5 years old I found in a drawer recently and it worked GREAT for my garden. (best results I ever had)

1 cu Ft:
- canadian peat moss
- perlite
- Earthworm castings or compost --> if available "Bu's Blend Organic" or "Farmer D's Organic"
- Espoma "Tomato/Garden/Plant Tone"


- Dolomite Lime or garden lime (1 CUP per CuFT)
- Azomite / Glacial Dust / Rock (4CUPS per CuFT)

A gardening supply store should have all of the following which you mix together before mixing in with soil:

general fertilizer (1 cup)
neem meal (1 cup)
alfalfa meal (1 cup)
crab meal (1 cup)
kelp meal (2 cups)

^^ Mix these together seperately and then add 2-3 cups of the mix per cuFT of soil and then save the rest as a topdressing


Once everything is mixed together add a little bit of water to your new soil and let it sit for a couple days to a week or two. You will see (beneficial) fungi networks grow and that's EXACTLY what you want to see, nature doing it's thing. Stir every couple days and add a little bit more water.

After about 2 weeks your new soil is thriving with beneficial bacteria and fungi that will immensely help your plants (of basically any variety) grow... and you've saved money!

I'm telling you guys, I've tried store bought soil of both the organic non-organic variety. I've tried adding chemical fertilizers, I've tried natural fertilizers, but nothing ever compared to the grows I did with this mix.

Water only.
NO ph monitoring or adjusting needed. Nature takes care of it.


Your end result will be great, I'm sure of it.

edit: Once I made the switch I will never go back to anything else. It might sound too good to be true, but after the initial "work" your growing life becomes much easier. You've provided nature with all the nutrients and things it needs to grow, so as long as it has water it will continue to thrive. I've also heard of people adding earthworms straight into the soil as well during grow cycles, although I've never done it.

Has anyone else made or used a similar mix, and can back me up?
Nice. All ingredients available at local nurseries?
I'll see if I can whip up a batch this weekend.
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:01 AM   #48
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Nice. All ingredients available at local nurseries?
I'll see if I can whip up a batch this weekend.
They should be. I was living in rocklin at the time and I remember I had to go to a non-big box store for the meal(s). The internet or amazon should be able supplement anything you can't find.

Also note that I changed the initial post (espoma tomato fertilizer down with meals)
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:03 AM   #49
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Yeah plz, i may take it all. Price?
I will put up a list this weekend.
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Best to wear a respirator when handling perlite, lime, or azomite.
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Best to wear a respirator when handling perlite, lime, or azomite.
my dads an engineer, he said thats a myth.
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my dads an engineer, he said thats a myth.
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Old 03-02-2017, 12:15 PM   #54
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I hope you live rurally, but probably not given that your location is San Francisco. Kind of rude to make your neighbors smell it instead of keeping it inside your own walls.

the smell of a plant growing is rude? Would you say the same about roses in front of your house, they have a fairly strong smell?
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For years I lived a mile from a tomato processing plant and I could smell it pretty much anytime but winter. I felt like my nose was being violated because they put odors in it without my consent. Really though, I don't know where the line is drawn on creating public stink. I know some Vietnamese cook stinky fish and Indians cook curry dishes, both quite pungent and travel a good distance, but those seem to fall into the "sorry, sir, nothing we can do..." category. So I guess the people who don't like it can suck it?
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The smell from a couple plants isn't that strong.
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But think of the kids!!!! Shit man, if I had a daughter I would hope she smokes pot before giving up her virginity to sancho or some shit.

I guess my point is who gives a fuck about the smell really haha
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The smell from a couple plants isn't that strong.
For real, a 4in 200cfm fan with a carbon filter would extract all the smell.
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I sweat this thread has more people writing in than treads about motorcycles.

I got a light perfect for starts and cloning that I've used in the grab bag section. Makes for easy cloning and planting.
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