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Old 01-17-2019, 11:01 AM   #16
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0 hours on something with a motor, thousands by pedal.

Matt at Ace didn't seem concerned about me being completely new, but he's a sales guy and I'm sure the Moto Cafe guys are as well.

How else do I compare a 250 to a 350 4t? Can't demo something from a dealer with a long hill climb. I'm not a typical tiny 150lb motocross rider. I want to find out if the extra oomph of the 350 is worth the coin over a used 250.
If you are a talented mtn bike rider it should not be a problem. Talented and big? Still, it is best to go play in the dirt on a buddie’s bike first to groove on sliding around.
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Old 01-17-2019, 11:33 AM   #17
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The dirt demo day is brought to you by KTM USA, and your local dealers. It is recommended to have experience with dirt riding. The track can be challenging. Please see the requirements below.




In Order to participate in the KTM Off Road Demo Ride please have the following:
1. Form of ID
2. Age of 18 or Older
3. Proper Riding Apparel including the following, but not limited to: - DOT approved Helmet - Gloves - Jacket - Pants - Boots - Goggles 4. Signed Waiver
Note: You will only be allowed one ride per model!
Please see a KTM Representative for more details.
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Old 01-17-2019, 03:27 PM   #18
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0 hours on something with a motor, thousands by pedal.

Matt at Ace didn't seem concerned about me being completely new, but he's a sales guy and I'm sure the Moto Cafe guys are as well.

How else do I compare a 250 to a 350 4t? Can't demo something from a dealer with a long hill climb. I'm not a typical tiny 150lb motocross rider. I want to find out if the extra oomph of the 350 is worth the coin over a used 250.
250’s have plenty of power. Especially if you are riding trails.
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Old 01-17-2019, 04:52 PM   #19
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0 hours on something with a motor, thousands by pedal.

Matt at Ace didn't seem concerned about me being completely new, but he's a sales guy and I'm sure the Moto Cafe guys are as well.

How else do I compare a 250 to a 350 4t? Can't demo something from a dealer with a long hill climb. I'm not a typical tiny 150lb motocross rider. I want to find out if the extra oomph of the 350 is worth the coin over a used 250.
have you considered a smoker?
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Old 01-17-2019, 05:24 PM   #20
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have you considered a smoker?
Yes, and I didn't grow up on 2T dirt bikes. So I have no fondness whatsoever for them.
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Old 01-18-2019, 07:00 AM   #21
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My first dirtbike was a smoker and I don't either =P But it is different and cool since they're somewhat rare nowadays.
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:30 PM   #22
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This demo day has 2 options....
The GP track is where you can demo all the mx models...
They have a cross country loop to demo all the rest.
Caution: I did this demo back in 2014 and spent $8400 the next day
on a spankin new 300XC....(no regrets)
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Old 01-19-2019, 07:03 PM   #23
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:11 AM   #24
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Who else is more than 150 miles from HH?
These demo days seem like pretty much the only way to compare various new-ish bikes.
Currently shopping for a deal. Recently got a quote of 9800 for an '18 TX300.
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Caution: I did this demo back in 2014 and spent $8400 the next day
on a spankin new 300XC....(no regrets)
Haha, that doesn't bother me. Can you recall approximately how many miles/hours you got to ride?
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:05 AM   #25
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When I did this it was 2 laps around the GP track on the motocross bikes...
One lap around the trail loop (10 minutes or so) per model you demo.
Now if some cone head crashes the bike you were standing in line to ride
then you wait as the mechanics change levers etc....
So please don't go out and wad the bike.
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Old 01-20-2019, 07:54 PM   #26
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It is a whole lot of waiting and a wee bit of riding.

Say the trail loop is 10 minutes, with additional 5 minutes spent swapping out riders & getting the next group ready ... 6 guys in front of you in line, you got 1.5 hours to wait in line for your 10 minute ride.

After your ride, go to next line, say 4 guys in front of you, then ~1 hour wait for your next 10 minute ride.

There may be an unpopular model where the line is 1-2 people ... so a 15-30 min wait.
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:52 PM   #27
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...But it is different and cool since they're somewhat rare nowadays.
They are? Go to any race or trail head and you can't throw a rock without hitting a KTM/Husky/Beta/Yamaha 2-stroke. Pretty sure they have been selling them like hotcakes for years.
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Old 01-20-2019, 10:09 PM   #28
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I hope they don't have bikes with a recluse again. I saw several close calls from goons revving them up at the line when they thought it was in neutral. Yikes.

Would be cool if they have a TPI, freeride, or e bike.

I'll be there, rain or shine.
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Old 01-21-2019, 01:34 AM   #29
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Thanks for the input.
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It is a whole lot of waiting and a wee bit of riding. ......edited.... Say the trail loop is 10 minutes, ... 1-1.5 hours to wait. There may be an unpopular model where the line is 1-2 people ... so a 15-30 min wait.
I see. Still 6 days to decide, and I'd like to check out Hollister anyways.
At least we get fed.
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........... So please don't go out and wad the bike.
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I've got dozens of hours on a '92 300 & numerous rides on an '05 300. I bet a '17+ will be much more manageable.
Did you get exactly 3 "rides"? The 300XC you mentioned is one of the bikes I'm interested in.
Seems I missed out on some year-end "promo" deals so I'm taking my time to buy.
It's not too easy to find a bike nearby for less than 9K oTd.
Anyways, I should test some bikes before making the XC/XC-W choice anyways.

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Old 01-21-2019, 05:11 PM   #30
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Anyways, I should test some bikes before making the XC/XC-W choice anyways.
The simple thinking is ...

XC - has stiffer suspension, best for faster speeds, fast racer, a bit of moto-x fun. 2 stroke still comes with a carb.

XC-W - has softer suspension, better as a trail bike, still great race bike for slower, tighter courses and slower speeds. 2 stroke now (2019) only comes with the TPI. You could still track down a 2018 with a carb if you wanted.
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