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Old 01-10-2019, 06:53 AM   #1
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Chain oilers

I'd like to pick up a chain oiler so that I can be lazier on long trips.

I know ScottOiler is the best known brand but there are various others as well.

Any opinions?
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:14 AM   #2
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:11 PM   #3
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Any opinions?
Plenty of facts... auto oilers lube only the external roller and
between the roller and the sprockets (red area in my drawing)... they
do not lube the X rings nor behind the X rings so any oil applied
in that effort is wasted fling off... The running oil leak lowers the
operating temp where the factory installed grease has a chance to live
longer before the first adjustment... but the fact remains adjustment
is taking up the slack cause by metal to metal wear at the critical
pin and roller junction because the factory installed grease is
beginning to fail... you can submerge the chain into a sea of oil and
not one molecule will migrate pass the effective X ring seals to
reverse this metal to metal wear...

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Old 01-11-2019, 07:37 PM   #4
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... they do not lube the X rings nor behind the X rings so any oil applied in that effort is wasted fling off...
True. X or even O-ring chains are internally sealed for the life of the chain.

However, road grim on the outside of the chain is what wears the sprockets and external pins. The oil fling-off is not wasted because with it goes road grim thus extending the life of the chains and sprockets.
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The oil fling-off is not wasted because with it goes road grim thus extending the life of the chains and sprockets.
Mr.Scott may have found a way to make your chain all pretty on the
outside but it still goes all rotten in the inside... the only worth one can
expect is the fact that if you coat the chain in enough oil the running temp
is lower where the grease has a chance to live longer but oh the price
one pays for that single benefit...
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:49 PM   #6
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People with chain oilers generally see significantly better mileage than people without chain oilers.

I can't say exactly why, but they seem to work.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:36 PM   #7
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With the lack of center stands oilers make enough sense to me that I put one on a girlfriends bike. No data other than a breakup available at this time.
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:30 PM   #8
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People with chain oilers generally see significantly better mileage than people without chain oilers.

I can't say exactly why, but they seem to work.
It works by coating the chain in enough oil the running temp
is lower where the factory installed grease has a chance to live longer

Other than that your chain maybe all pretty on the outside but all rotten in the inside...

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Old 01-12-2019, 05:37 PM   #9
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If the oil is reducing running temp, it's because of reduced friction rather than any cooling based on oil flow.
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Old 01-12-2019, 07:35 PM   #10
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Automatic chain oilers can make a little bit of a oily mess but can be very somewhat useful.

Especially for riders who can't be bothered or have no clue how to take 2 minutes to spray their chain with some lube and inspect/adjust their chain slack once every other month.
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:01 PM   #11
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I used Scottoilers on my two previous chain driven bikes (Vstrom and Transalp) and consistently got over 30,000 miles on each chain and sprocket set. If you are doing a lot of miles an automatic oiler is definitely worth it.
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:33 PM   #12
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Automatic chain oilers can make a little bit of a oily mess but can be very somewhat useful.

Especially for riders who can't be bothered or have no clue how to take 2 minutes to spray their chain with some lube and inspect/adjust their chain slack once every other month.
this is largely for long trips. I find it hard to get around to chain maintenance when I'm a long way from home.

My impression is that they don't make much mess if they're set correctly
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My impression is that they don't make much mess if they're set correctly
My experience is that they make LESS mess if set correctly. They are still messier than a standard spray on lube. The Scottoiler fluid is basically AT fluid (which can be also be used if you run out of the Scottoiler fluid), which sticks poorly to your chain and therefore requires constant lubrication. Since it sticks poorly to the chain, it will also pick up less grit and grime than a spray on lube....which keeps your chain clean and extends its life. Itís almost a chain cleaner vs oiler. The disadvantage is the oil gets flung on your rear wheel and underside of the rear of the bike. Proper adjustment will minimize but not eliminate the mess. For long trips an oiler is much easier than maintaining a chain the traditional way.
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Old 01-13-2019, 02:34 AM   #14
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My KLR650 came with a Scottoiler and it was great when it worked. To clean the chain you just wipe the oil off the chain. After a while it would just keep on leaking so I ditched it. I was trying to make an electronic one but I gave up on that also O_o' And yeah it's kinda messy.

When I'm on long trips every night is chain maintenance =( or every other. A large can of lube last a long time I found out O_o'
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Plenty of facts... auto oilers lube only the external roller and
between the roller and the sprockets (red area in my drawing)... they
do not lube the X rings nor behind the X rings so any oil applied
in that effort is wasted fling off... The running oil leak lowers the
operating temp where the factory installed grease has a chance to live
longer before the first adjustment... but the fact remains adjustment
is taking up the slack cause by metal to metal wear at the critical
pin and roller junction because the factory installed grease is
beginning to fail... you can submerge the chain into a sea of oil and
not one molecule will migrate pass the effective X ring seals to
reverse this metal to metal wear...


So are you saying you donít lube your chains because itís a waste of time? Or do you have a secret way to make it effective? Btw, Iím into chain oilers im just interested in your information
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