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Old 01-10-2019, 09:39 AM   #1
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Shoei Heads Up Display helmet -- IT-HT

Announced at CES recently, Shoei is coming out with a head up display helmet. Unlike Skully, this one has legs as it's coming from a big helmet manufacturer. Maybe a thread coming? Arai?

https://www.webbikeworld.com/shoei-r...helmet-at-ces/

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Old 01-10-2019, 09:56 AM   #2
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This could be promising. Finally, a legit helmet company getting into this space. I wish there were more pictures and information about it.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:51 AM   #3
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The one thing I see with displays on the face-shield is that in a car when you look around the HUD doesn't follow your field of view. In the helmet it's always there and even if you can see through the images it cuts down on detail.

Look how long it took for the majority of people to support laws regarding texting while driving (distracted driving) and still people do it.

This could end up being similar where not enough data is available before starting to put this in helmets. How many people have used a helmet with a HUD type interface and has there been enough real world testing to show it won't distract the riders?

Faceshields get bug splattered and now you have that plus the displays. You can turn them off, how many will?

Consider things like temperature. First, you're on a motorcycle and if you don't know if the temps are okay then maybe something else is wrong. Speed and tach? Until recently, most vehicles put those readouts out of the line of primary vision, probably for good reason. Engine data? Same thing.

Maps? Ok but if you're riding in the twisties who is going to look and if you're going distance it probably doesn't matter much.

All this stuff means putting batteries in helmets, costs going up and the way motorcycles accessories are sold, lots of people including new riders want the shiny new thing. Maybe this isn't such a good idea.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:59 AM   #4
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Whats the battery life. Motorcycling is about keeping it simple. I don't need HUD, what info would I need in front of my face all the time.
However a built in camera would be nice.
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:52 AM   #5
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You don't have to buy one if you don't want to 8-)
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:58 AM   #6
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Interesting, I would like to dee one in person.
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Old 01-13-2019, 11:47 AM   #7
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Maps? Ok but if you're riding in the twisties who is going to look and if you're going distance it probably doesn't matter much.
Just last night I was considering the NUVIZ HUD specifically to not miss the turns when riding goaty back roads, as a replacement for my Sena 10C which is crapping out on its battery and second set of speakers. But the NUVIZ has poor firmware and screen resolution, so skipping that.
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Just last night I was considering the NUVIZ HUD specifically to not miss the turns when riding goaty back roads, as a replacement for my Sena 10C which is crapping out on its battery and second set of speakers. But the NUVIZ has poor firmware and screen resolution, so skipping that.
Anything more than a straight freeway and I find checking on gauges and anything but road conditions to be just distraction. I have tried just the audio from GPs and that works pretty good and doesn't interfere with what limited views helmets offer. Maybe just me but I respond better to an audio "turn right in 500'" than some map that is translucent and omni-present (so far only experience in cars).

For some people the HUD type inside a helmet might work though.
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And of course there's always just mounting your phone in front of you...
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Anything more than a straight freeway and I find checking on gauges and anything but road conditions to be just distraction. I have tried just the audio from GPs and that works pretty good and doesn't interfere with what limited views helmets offer. Maybe just me but I respond better to an audio "turn right in 500'" than some map that is translucent and omni-present (so far only experience in cars).

For some people the HUD type inside a helmet might work though.
Here is a doctored photo of the NUVIZ Navigation screen. If I could remove the top and bottom UI elements, and if the maps text wasn't illegible, and if the app allowed custom point-by-point maps, and if the product didn't have terrible firmware -- I'd buy it.


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Old 01-13-2019, 04:18 PM   #12
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Here is a doctored photo of the NUVIZ Navigation screen. If I could remove the top and bottom UI elements, and if the maps text wasn't illegible, and if the app allowed custom point-by-point maps, and if the product didn't have terrible firmware -- I'd buy it.


That text is way too tiny. Plus, to even attempt to read it, your eyes would need to focus on an object only 4-5 inches away, which is quite different from the objects you need to focus on ahead. Some people might not be able to shift their focus quickly enough, if at all, especially older people who might need reading glasses.

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Old 01-13-2019, 04:21 PM   #13
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Kind of misleading how the image is shown 4-5 feet away, when in reality it's only 4-5 inches from your eyes.

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Kind of misleading how the image is shown 4-5 feet away, when in reality it's only 4-5 inches from your eyes.
The image is close but its focused for a little bit of distance to make it easier.

Still waiting for a reasonable and reliable modular system, so I wouldn't have to replace my system every time I get a new helmet.
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The image is close but its focused for a little bit of distance to make it easier.
Really? Wonder how they do that.
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