riding with a firearm

[Dudur3]

What is the law of riding with a firearm?
If I want to ride to a shooting range, and I have hard case panniers with locks.
My pistol also have a lock on it.
Is it legal?
Are there any requirements for the panniers?
I have Tracer 900 gt and it comes with stock panniers.
Thanks in advance.

[bojangle]

It would have to be unloaded as well, unless you had a CCW permit. It would be legal to transport as long as it's unloaded and in a locked box.

[Dudur3]

Originally Posted by bojangle

It would have to be unloaded as well, unless you had a CCW permit. It would be legal to transport as long as it's unloaded and in a locked box.

Thanks for the reply.
Yes, of course i take it unloaded. i will put my gun on one side and the ammo in the other pannier.
My question is, are the Tracer 900 gt panniers doj approved to carry the gun in them on my way to the range.

[NorCalBusa]

No, they are not. Here's an easy way to comply (different sizes are available);

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[Dudur3]

Ok, I think my bad English makes it hard on me to explain.
I have my gun case. my gun has a lock on it ( lock goes from the magazine place through the shell exist window.) and in a locked hard panniers. do in need to have the gun in a gun safe even if I have a lock on the gun and a lock on the pannier?

[Slow Goat]

Similar to auto transport; which requires the unloaded pistol be in a locked container in the trunk or compartment not reachable be the driver.

In your case, your key-locked panniers are your trunk. You should be okay. The law only dictates what IS legal, or what isn’t. Lockable is lockable.

We’ve had guys ride to the club with ARs in a tactical case slung over their back. Granted those are long guns. Doubt you’ll have any problems.

[Dudur3]

Thank you all for the help

[ST Guy]

I use a soft pistol case and a TSA padlock. That's all you need. Put it in the pannier and you're good to go.

Also, no need to transport ammo separately. I usually have two loaded magazines in the case with the gun. As long as there is no chambered round in the gun and there is also no magazine in the gun that has even one round in it, you're fine. You can even have an empty magazine in the gun if you want, but I prefer to leave the magazines out.

[Junkie]

Originally Posted by NorCalBusa

No, they are not. Here's an easy way to comply (different sizes are available);

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I didn't think California had such thing as an approved list for secure locked containers.

I'd want the gun in a case inside the motorcycle case, so that you can walk it from the bike to the firing line without it exposed.

[ST Guy]

Originally Posted by Junkie

I didn't think California had such thing as an approved list for secure locked containers.

I'd want the gun in a case inside the motorcycle case, so that you can walk it from the bike to the firing line without it exposed.

California doesn't have such a list.

And yes, you'll need something for legal transport outside the vehicle.

I use one of these: https://boytharness.com/product/plan...ed-pistol-pad/.

Perfectly legal as long as it's locked. I use a bright red TSA lock from REI. I only rotate the last tumbler one click so I always have quick access.

[NorCalBusa]

Originally Posted by Junkie

I didn't think California had such thing as an approved list for secure locked containers.

I'd want the gun in a case inside the motorcycle case, so that you can walk it from the bike to the firing line without it exposed.

No named/approved list- just an example of what's approved (there are others).

[Junkie]

As far as the locked container thing goes, does the frunk on my NC700X qualify as a trunk or as a "utility or glove" compartment?

It's where you'd expect the gas tank to be. It locks, and I imagine qualifies as secure.

Obviously, if it is a trunk, it could only be used without an extra case if going from my garage to BLM land or similar (where I can park somewhere legal to shoot).

[bojangle]

Originally Posted by Junkie

As far as the locked container thing goes, does the frunk on my NC700X qualify as a trunk or as a "utility or glove" compartment?

It's where you'd expect the gas tank to be. It locks, and I imagine qualifies as secure.

Obviously, if it is a trunk, it could only be used without an extra case if going from my garage to BLM land or similar (where I can park somewhere legal to shoot).

I think that location isn't clearly defined, so I'd say it's a grey area. With the up front location, it would seem to be as accessible as a locking glove compartment. It's certainly possible that an officer could try to make the case for a criminal charge that would apply the same as it would if it were in a glove compartment in a car.

[ST Guy]

The reason guns aren't to be stored in glove boxes or center console, locked or not, is that they are easily accessible while driving. You trunk, being behind you while riding, is not accessible while riding so you're fine. And, if the trunk is removeable and can be in a locked condition while carrying it, you could use it to transport your gun between the bike and your home or other destination, thus avoiding a separate lockable container.

Edit: Just noticed you said "frunk". If it's in front of you, the argument could be made that it's accessible while riding. Weak argument, though. I wouldn't transport that way unless the gun was in its own lockable container. Better in a tail trunk or side bags.

You can also transport in a backpack if it's locked. Or unlocked if the gun is in it's own locked container.