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Old 01-16-2019, 04:21 PM   #1
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Requirements to ride new-to-me motorcycle from out of state

Hi,

I just purchased a new to me motorcycle from out of state that has never been registered in California. The seller (online dealership RumbleOn), has given me 3 days to test the motorcycle before they send me the title (they allow 3-day, 150mile test).

I want to have the motorcycle checked by a specialist before I say the final yes.
Can I ride on the road with it?

I have:
- Temp tags
- Proof of insurance
- All signed sales documents from both parties.
- A DMV appointment to register the motorcycle next week

From what I read, you need temp tags, insurance and registration (which i dont have), are all the sales documents enough to ride until i can have the motorcycle registered?

I could not find any info online, would love some expert opinion.
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:06 PM   #2
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Hi,

I just purchased a new to me motorcycle from out of state that has never been registered in California. The seller (online dealership RumbleOn), has given me 3 days to test the motorcycle before they send me the title (they allow 3-day, 150mile test).

I want to have the motorcycle checked by a specialist before I say the final yes.
Can I ride on the road with it?

I have:
- Temp tags
- Proof of insurance
- All signed sales documents from both parties.
- A DMV appointment to register the motorcycle next week

From what I read, you need temp tags, insurance and registration (which i dont have), are all the sales documents enough to ride until i can have the motorcycle registered?

I could not find any info online, would love some expert opinion.
A year. Type. And mileage. Would help..
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:09 PM   #3
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Its a 2015 Ducati 899 Panigale with ~2300 miles.
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:34 PM   #4
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Its a 2015 Ducati 899 Panigale with ~2300 miles.
I think you may have a DMV issue with a bike with less than 7500 miles on it.
Look it up on there web site....
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:35 PM   #5
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DMV site says you have 10 days from purchase to register the vehicle, so I'd imagine that you are covered with the docs you have in-hand.
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:40 PM   #6
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I think you may have a DMV issue with a bike with less than 7500 miles on it.
Look it up on there web site....
You know that's not what he was asking about, right?

And why ask for type of bike and year if you aren't going to provide any useful information with it? Anyways, I'm pretty sure all recent Ducatis are 50-state, so mileage should be of no concern.
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:56 PM   #7
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I imagine temp tags (and associated paperwork) qualify as registration
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Old 01-16-2019, 06:05 PM   #8
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You know that's not what he was asking about, right?

And why ask for type of bike and year if you aren't going to provide any useful information with it? Anyways, I'm pretty sure all recent Ducatis are 50-state, so mileage should be of no concern.
I'm always thinking about saving money
He has to register it as a New Vehicle!
Less then 7500 miles.
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Old 01-16-2019, 07:02 PM   #9
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I think you may have a DMV issue with a bike with less than 7500 miles on it.
Look it up on there web site....
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You know that's not what he was asking about, right?

And why ask for type of bike and year if you aren't going to provide any useful information with it? Anyways, I'm pretty sure all recent Ducatis are 50-state, so mileage should be of no concern.
All recent Ducatis are 50-state, the mileage, as sckego said should not be an issue.

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DMV site says you have 10 days from purchase to register the vehicle, so I'd imagine that you are covered with the docs you have in-hand.
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I imagine temp tags (and associated paperwork) qualify as registration
sckego, Junkie: I also assume it won't be an issue, but wanted to be sure about it before going on the road.

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I'm always thinking about saving money
He has to register it as a New Vehicle!
Less then 7500 miles.
What's the difference registering as a new vehicle vs used?
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Old 01-16-2019, 10:14 PM   #10
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What is Considered a New Vehicle?
California considers any vehicle with less than 7,500 miles on the odometer at the time of purchase or trade by a California resident or business, to be a new vehicle. This is true whether or not the vehicle has been registered in another state.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/de...t_facts/ffvr29
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Old 01-16-2019, 11:16 PM   #11
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Look over the bike and make sure it has the EPA label and make sure it is a 50 State bike
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Old 01-16-2019, 11:50 PM   #12
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All recent Ducatis are 50-state, the mileage, as sckego said should not be an issue.





sckego, Junkie: I also assume it won't be an issue, but wanted to be sure about it before going on the road.



What's the difference registering as a new vehicle vs used?

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Old 01-17-2019, 07:15 AM   #13
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The safe bet is to not attempt to register the bike in California until it has over 7500 miles on the odometer... Then you know it is legal to register as a used bike.

If you take the bike to DMV and it is not California emissions legal, you can get the death letter that orders the bike removed from California and it can never be registered in California, ever.

Had a friend that went through this last summer on a Yamaha he bought in Las Vegas...
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:41 AM   #14
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California considers any vehicle with less than 7,500 miles on the odometer at the time of purchase or trade by a California resident or business, to be a new vehicle. This is true whether or not the vehicle has been registered in another state.

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California charges a use tax for vehicles which is based solely on the purchase price. Whether it is new or used had ZERO bearing on the amount.
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:42 AM   #15
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The safe bet is to not attempt to register the bike in California until it has over 7500 miles on the odometer... Then you know it is legal to register as a used bike.


The lack of reading comprehension and amount of misinformation whenever a thread like this come up is staggering.
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