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Old 01-29-2013, 02:29 PM   #1
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Safest Motorcycle Helmet You Can Buy

Hey again! I'm new to BARF and new to the bay area so i've spent most of my time on this forum pretty much asking questions - where to ride, cool spots along the way - but i've got a slightly different q this time.

I should preface this by saying that I am a contributing blog writer for a local motorcycle lawyers blog and in the effort to try and spice up his content I wrote an article on three helmets i think are the safest. I based my decisions on the recommendations of other riders in combo with the different rating systems for helmets and crash statistics (so boring).

So my question here is a two parter. I would love to get peoples insights into my three choices, pros/cons and any other feelings you've got about the products. The second part of my question, is for a WOMAN (i'm about 5'1, and no hamburglar sized head), which type (perhaps one i havent chosen) would you recommend for ME.

Besides wondering if i'm totally off-base with the three i've chosen - i am actually looking for a new helmet now as fate would have it.

My three choices:
1. Arai Corsair
2. Shoei x-twleve
3. Shark Race-R

Thanks for reading - sorry for being so long-winded!
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:03 PM   #2
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you left three very important factors: budget,head shape and comfort. the only way to really know what works for you is try them on and sit on a bike in the riding position. you'll be surprised by the difference of the weight and field of view from one helmet to the next....
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:46 PM   #3
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fit is really important. Try each helmet and pick the one that fits the best.

When I started to ride, a friend told me get an Arai, so I bought a Quantum 2 and promptly crash tested it after 2 months. It was a small , very low speed crash but I blacked out because I don't think the helmet fitted me very well. I then crash tested 2 Shoei Rf1000s at much higher speeds and came out much better because they fit. Needless to say, I'm now on a shoei rf1100.

So, find the right fit is very important. And, if you are new, you may not be able to figure out the right fit by yourself. I don't think I know what was a good fit until I wore the rf1000 (second helmet) for awhile (like a few months).

Oh, I should add that had the right-colored Arai been on sale instead of the Shoei, I probably would have replaced my quamtum 2 with another quantum 2 and may never have figured out that it didn't fit me well.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:14 PM   #4
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I know, me too. As much as I love Arai lids they just don't fit my head. I am told I have a Shoei head. I must because the RF-1100 fit like a glove. Now I have the RF-1100 and a NeoTech. I didn't get the X-12 because I am more of an upright tour rider and don't really spend much time in the tuck position. Of the two, I trust the RF-1100 the most.

I have no doubt the Arai will perform just as well on a rider that it fits well on. I think fit is absolutely key. Don't have any experience with the Shark, so I cannot comment on that one.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:28 PM   #5
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Doesn't matter how the helmet rates, if it doesn't fit you right the protection won't be where you need it. You have to try them on and spend a bit of time in each. Arai can be a good place to start just because they do make three shapes. The drawback is if you go somewhere they don't know how to fit an Arai you could end up with absolutely the wrong helmet. (ask me how I know)

Even so that's just to start off. Take your time and find what works for you. That's a question no one else can answer. Good luck.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:33 PM   #6
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For me personally, any helmet that meets the Snell standard is "safe enough". And before someone jumps in saying that some other standard is better than Snell, yes, that may be true for smaller sizes, but not for the XL that I need.

I happen to like Shoei and have even crash tested one of them. It would be very difficult to come up with a crash scenario where you would die with one particular helmet meeting the Snell standard but would survive with a different one.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:35 PM   #7
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Read "Blowing the Lid Off" from 2005.

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Make your decision from there.
It's an older article, but very informative.

Z1R makes a fantastic, and inexpensive helmet.
Don't fall into the "how much is your head worth" hype.
You don't have to spend assinine amounts of money to have your head well protected.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:41 PM   #8
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Read "Blowing the Lid Off" from 2005.

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Make your decision from there.
It's an older article, but very informative.

Z1R makes a fantastic, and inexpensive helmet.
Don't fall into the "how much is your head worth" hype.
You don't have to spend assinine amounts of money to have your head well protected.
BINGO! Winnar/thread.
Unfortunately, this is the last time anyone has done any thourough and extensive/un-biased and objective reality-based helmet test and it is therefore, the gospel, to this day.
Popularity and price have absolutely nothing to do with what is best.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:45 PM   #9
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I seriously doubt there is much difference in how safe various full-face, Snell rated helmets are. All helmets work the same way (based on the same principles), so the safest helmet would be one that has the thickest shock-absorbing styrofoam. And as far as I can tell, all full-face helmets have styrofoam of roughly the same thickness.

The difference between helmets of different prices is mostly in features unrelated to safety - ventilation, face shield mechanism, removable liners, etc.
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Kali Protectives is working on a new dual liner system.

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I seriously doubt there is much difference in how safe various full-face, Snell rated helmets are. All helmets work the same way (based on the same principles), so the safest helmet would be one that has the thickest shock-absorbing styrofoam. And as far as I can tell, all full-face helmets have styrofoam of roughly the same thickness.

The difference between helmets of different prices is mostly in features unrelated to safety - ventilation, face shield mechanism, removable liners, etc.
Snell and DOT certs are based on different types of crash profiles. Helmets are usually made to pass either test but manufacturing one that will pass both should speak to the build quality. I've owned many helmets and my Arai is light years beyond some of the crap I have owned.
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$10 head, $10 helmet. That is true. The difference between an $80 Chinese helmet and a $500 Arai is how they are made. Look at what the racers wear, none wear the junk helmets. None.

The safest helmet is a Suburban.
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Look at what the racers wear, none wear the junk helmets. None.
Spies wears HJC.
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Snell and DOT certs are based on different types of crash profiles. Helmets are usually made to pass either test but manufacturing one that will pass both should speak to the build quality. I've owned many helmets and my Arai is light years beyond some of the crap I have owned.
Every helmet sold in the US has to meet DOT requirements, and most full-face helmets meet Snell requirements, which is why I mentioned Snell-certified helmets. (Although many people believe that the Snell certification leads to helmets that actually deliver more force to the head in an impact than, say, EC-certified helmets. But that's a separate topic.)

I totally agree that your Arai is a much better helmet than a cheapo helmet, but it's better because of its features and general quality, totally unrelated to how safe the helmet is. If your head hits the pavement in the Arai vs. in a cheaper Snell-certified helmet, the results are going to be pretty much the same. The big difference is that the Arai is going to be much more comfortable to wear, quieter, lighter, better ventilated, etc. But it won't be safer.
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Spies wears HJC.
And now Lorenzo. The new RPHA 10 Looks to be pretty good; I doubt either one of those guys would wear it if they didn't believe that it would do the job. I gotta wonder though; I tried the RPHA Max Modular at the IMS and the thing was a joke! It felt like a toy and you could tell that the moving parts didn't have a chance in hell of lasting more than a couple of months. No way in hell I would trust that thing to protect me.

I'm going to assume that the RPHA 10 is a better build and uses different materials.

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