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Old 03-12-2018, 07:53 PM   #16
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The charges, speeds, and speed limits listed on both cites are identical?

Did you have any priors on your driving record that he didn't have? I'm not sure if that factors in to the fine or not.
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Old 03-13-2018, 05:06 AM   #17
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Or used LIDAR on one and visually estimated the other...which is really easy if you're riding together at the same speed.
Point of order; in radar and LIDAR enforcement, the approved technique is for the officer to first Visually Estimate the speed and then verify that estimate with the device.

I have little doubt that happens with less frequency in the field, especially with LIDAR- officers point and shoot, read the speed and then assume it is gospel. It is unlikely they'd fess up to it in court, they've been trained otherwise.

This doesn't help the OP figure out the different fines of course.
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:30 PM   #18
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Don’t think of it as you have to pay more than him, think of it as he gets to pay less and be happy for him.
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:54 PM   #19
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Point of order; in radar and LIDAR enforcement, the approved technique is for the officer to first Visually Estimate the speed and then verify that estimate with the device.

I have little doubt that happens with less frequency in the field, especially with LIDAR- officers point and shoot, read the speed and then assume it is gospel. It is unlikely they'd fess up to it in court, they've been trained otherwise.

This doesn't help the OP figure out the different fines of course.
Visually estimated and confirmed with LIDAR and solely visually estimated the other.

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Old 03-14-2018, 10:39 AM   #20
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Just thinking outside the box, as I'm not sure how the court decides what the fine is.

-Is there a difference in points on your driving record?
-Are there different addresses listed on your DLs?
-Are your appearance date/locations the same?

1. I'm not sure how many points that my roomate has on his license. I have one point on my record from 2 years ago.

2. We live together and have the same address on our DLs.

3. Locations are the same, his appear-by date is exactly one week after mine.
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When are the appearance dates? Maybe the fiscal year has something to do with it...

I’d guess it’s the driving record if anything.
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You'd previously said "both have clean driving records" so I figured you had a clean driving record. That might explain it
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How much is the difference in the 2 tickets? Is it worth the head scratching?
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How much is the difference in the 2 tickets? Is it worth the head scratching?
His is ~$350

Mine is $400
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You'd previously said "both have clean driving records" so I figured you had a clean driving record. That might explain it
Sorry, I should have explained - I took the driving school for that point.
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Sorry, I should have explained - I took the driving school for that point.
Everything, everything, EVERYTHING equal it should be the same. I'm talking driving history, exactly what the citation said, mailing addresses, etc. I'm guessing at least one thing varies between the two of you. Really, though, I seriously doubt they made any mistakes. Just pay the fine and on.
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Everything, everything, EVERYTHING equal it should be the same. I'm talking driving history, exactly what the citation said, mailing addresses, etc. I'm guessing at least one thing varies between the two of you. Really, though, I seriously doubt they made any mistakes. Just pay the fine and on.
Well, I'm gonna fight the ticket anyway. We'll see what they have to say.
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Old 06-05-2018, 06:43 PM   #28
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Welp, what happened?
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Old 06-05-2018, 10:30 PM   #29
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I’d save your time which equals money to me and just pay the fine, go to traffic schoo if eligible, and slow down. There are times someone tells a story here and maybe we all see that the officer could have made a mistake, human error happens, and you’ll get some good advice. But you already admitted to speeding and Lidar is very difficult to beat in traffic court. As others mentioned two people can receive a speeding ticket from one officer using one Lidar at same time. I’ve pulled two people over at the same time for speeding just as you have described several times.
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So how's it going to go over when the Judge says you're right and bumps your buddy's by $51? Careful what you ask for...
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