07 GSXR 750 - front end fights me on turn in + hard braking - Page 4 - BARF

WeekEndWarrior · 11-14-2018, 06:34 AM

I had the same problem on my 13 r1. Turn 11 for example at Laguna. The bike would not turn unless I was off the brakes. I went and told Dave moss he added two clicks of compression and fixed her right up. It was amazing.

stangmx13 · 11-14-2018, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeekEndWarrior

I had the same problem on my 13 r1. Turn 11 for example at Laguna. The bike would not turn unless I was off the brakes. I went and told Dave moss he added two clicks of compression and fixed her right up. It was amazing.

im surprised that change helped that feeling. can u explain the improvement that u felt a little more?

WeekEndWarrior · 11-14-2018, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stangmx13

im surprised that change helped that feeling. can u explain the improvement that u felt a little more?

I should add I had 30mm Cartridges in the forks and a ttx Rear but the change was huge. I could brake now to the apex of the corner and not have to brake straight up and down then release and then turn in.

He had explained to me at the time why the change did what it did but That was 5 years ago now and I didn’t fully understand then and don’t really know now. Lol

stangmx13 · 11-15-2018, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeekEndWarrior

I should add I had 30mm Cartridges in the forks and a ttx Rear but the change was huge. I could brake now to the apex of the corner and not have to brake straight up and down then release and then turn in.

He had explained to me at the time why the change did what it did but That was 5 years ago now and I didn’t fully understand then and don’t really know now. Lol

Damn. Was hoping to learn something. Oh wells

The only time I’ve felt that drastic a change from only a compression damping change was when I accidentally left the setting at full soft after pulling the fork apart. And the change I needed def wasn’t 2 clicks

**Holeshot** · 11-16-2018, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stangmx13

make sure u buy those forks w/ Ohlins carts and extenders in the For Sale section

Why Ohlins VS GP Suspension? I'm pretty biased, but GP Suspension comes with manufacture support, especially trackside.

OP: What's your fluid level in the forks? Springs at 1.0 seem too heavy as does the rear spring. Bike sounds like a board. Aim to use the lightest springs you can get away with.

Given the problems you've got, I'd suggest sending your forks in for a service and making sure everything is Kosher. I can't tell the times I had incorrect work in the front end or shock early on it my racing endeavors and didn't know that was the cause of much of my grief.

I'd encourage you to send them in the us at GP Suspension...our tech(s) are excellent and will help you with setup issues long after you get your forks back. Shoot me a PM and I'll get a discount code for the service. I'm interested to see what's going on in the front end....

stangmx13 · 11-16-2018, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holeshot

Why Ohlins VS GP Suspension? I'm pretty biased, but GP Suspension comes with manufacture support, especially trackside.

ahh zombie quote. like afm199 said, it was a screaming deal.

ive never seen any GP suspension guys trackside. who does it and when/where to they show up?

**Holeshot** · 11-16-2018, 11:10 AM

West Coast based: All AFM and CVMA rounds...some WMRRA rounds too. No WERA rounds...too small.

zammer · 11-20-2018, 07:50 AM

thread from the dead....

To wrap up my results, At Ernie and other's insistence I:

Softened front to 0.95 and rear to 92.5N

Rear out to ~329mm eye to eye

Front at ~525mm full droop (that's ~2mm of the gp cap extenders above the top triple)

Things I've noticed - buttonwillow this year was consistently hitting 2-3s faster and feeling like it took much less effort to get there (most important). Bike turns in just OK but responds very stably under heavier trail braking, in fact it feels much smoother the harder I push the front into a corner.

Exit seems pretty neutral and doesn't feel like it wants to drift too wide though a little more than before.

afm199 · 11-20-2018, 03:28 PM

Good news.

stangmx13 · 11-21-2018, 08:50 AM

11-14-2018, 06:34 AM	#46
WeekEndWarrior Motorcycle Guy Contributor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hollister. Motorcycles: The kind I own. Name: Tim	I had the same problem on my 13 r1. Turn 11 for example at Laguna. The bike would not turn unless I was off the brakes. I went and told Dave moss he added two clicks of compression and fixed her right up. It was amazing. __________________ Probably going to get suspended for this

11-16-2018, 11:10 AM	#52
Holeshot Super Moderator BARF Moderator Founding Member Top Percent Poster Contributor / Barf Racer Barfie Winner 2014 & 2017 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Walnut Creek Motorcycles: Monica Sweetheart!!!! Name: Berto	West Coast based: All AFM and CVMA rounds...some WMRRA rounds too. No WERA rounds...too small. __________________ Posted as a BARF Member, NOT Moderator unless specifically noted as such. These opinions do not reflect the opinion of the BARF MODERATORS nor BARF itself. These are the opinions and posts of solely the posting member unless noted as such: "MOD HAT ON".

11-20-2018, 03:28 PM	#54
afm199 Veteran Mod Alumni Founding Member Top Percent Poster Contributor +++++++++ ++++++++++++++3% Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oaklamd Motorcycles: Yamasuzhonaki 1450 Name: Beelzebub	Good news. __________________ That's not true! The lie is actually the truth! I know. Lots of people know this.

11-21-2018, 08:50 AM	#55
stangmx13 not Stan Contributor BrotoGP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Diego CA Motorcycles: 04' 600RR, 09' 600RR, 15' R6 Name: Robert	__________________ BrotoGP Podcast and on Youtube WERA #513 / AFM #513R / MotoAmerica #31 Follow me on IG @rwpierce13 Thanks to: RiderzLaw Vortex

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

11-20-2018, 07:50 AM	#53
zammer Tripler AMA #3004877 1% Contributor Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Albany Motorcycles: '09 Triumph Street Triple R, '07 GSXR-750 (Track) Name:	thread from the dead.... To wrap up my results, At Ernie and other's insistence I: Softened front to 0.95 and rear to 92.5N Rear out to ~329mm eye to eye Front at ~525mm full droop (that's ~2mm of the gp cap extenders above the top triple) Things I've noticed - buttonwillow this year was consistently hitting 2-3s faster and feeling like it took much less effort to get there (most important). Bike turns in just OK but responds very stably under heavier trail braking, in fact it feels much smoother the harder I push the front into a corner. Exit seems pretty neutral and doesn't feel like it wants to drift too wide though a little more than before.