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Building a Gyro Cam Mount

llenta

Professional Newbie
Joined
Jun 30, 2008
Location
Hayward
Moto(s)
08 ninja 250r (sold), 2010 Daytona 675 SE
Name
Jeff
My goal was to build a gyro mount for my Contour camera. I search around and noticed that the only way people had achieved this (MotoGP) effect was to edit their videos afterward. I didn't like that idea because it took time afterward and you end up cropping out your video just to get that gyro effect.

So I started off and ordered up a servo that had a gyro built in and thought that this was going to be a walk in the park...but I was wrong. After hooking it up I realized that any normal gyro just would not work. It did well at holding the camera steady during left and right movements, but hold a direction for more then just a second and the servo wants to recenter itself. So any long sweeping turns and the gyro would quickly lean into the turn with your until you stand up again, then it would follow. This just would not do.

I went to an RC helicopter store and talked to the guys there and told them about my project. He said I needed a specific kind of gyro and he happened to have one in stock. Here were the components needed:

First you need a single channel heading hold gyro. This differs from a normal gyro as you set a heading, and it will hold that heading no matter how long you push it off axis. A normal gyro will be pushed off axis, give enough correction to correct itself then stop correcting. So it will not be able to hold itself in sweeping turns.
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Next you will need a driver for your gyro. This is the mechanism that will tell your gyro what the neutral position is. Or you can use this mechanism to correct and help center the servo.
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Third you will need a servo. This is the thing that will eventually have a camera mounted to it and it will compensate for the movement of the bike with the help of the gyro.
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Last it all needs power. Instead of wiring it to the bike, I picked up a little battery pack so that I have to option of putting it on somebody else bike (depends how nice they are).
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I put it all together last night and it seemed to function well. I still need to adjust the sensitivity on the gyro as it still seems a little nervous, but that's easy. I took a little teaser video with my phone because my Contour wasn't charged up.
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Next step for me is to put it all in an inclosure to hold all the pieces together. None of them are really all that big, so it shouldn't be too hard to mount it on the tail. Then I'm thinking of putting a RAM mount on the servo so that you could attach any kind of camera to it (see I'm thinking of other people too). I only have a Contour, but there may be a time when a GoPro may want a ride :laughing I should have it all together in the next day or two and will go for a test ride. I will update when I have more.

Hopefully many videos to come:ride
 
How many degrees from neutral can it accommodate? You think it can handle the relative load of a camera and its mount to retain functionality?
 
How many degrees from neutral can it accommodate? You think it can handle the relative load of a camera and its mount to retain functionality?

It will cover all 5 degrees of lean you achieve.


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Cost is about $150.... yes?
 
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How many degrees from neutral can it accommodate? You think it can handle the relative load of a camera and its mount to retain functionality?

This servo seems to be a little over 90 degrees. The last one I had did 180, unfortunately I damaged the board on that one and its out of commission. This current one will probably give me about 45-50 in each direction. If that doesn't seem to cut it I can pick up a different servo that has more range.

I want to know how its gunna react under cornering G forces.

Me too. You know there is only one way to find out :party

Cost is about $150.... yes?

That depends, are you counting only the parts in the end that got this working or all the parts that I have acquired since I started the project. :rofl

I think you could get away with a cheaper gyro as long as its heading hold and single channel. The servo and driver were both about $20. The battery pack was a few bucks as well as the inclosure case. You could do this for about $100 if you get a cheaper gyro online, but yeah this setup will be about $150
 
Fantastic! That also rules out the complications of cornering G-forces! :laughing

Agreed! :teeth

That depends, are you counting only the parts in the end that got this working or all the parts that I have acquired since I started the project. :rofl

I think you could get away with a cheaper gyro as long as its heading hold and single channel. The servo and driver were both about $20. The battery pack was a few bucks as well as the inclosure case. You could do this for about $100 if you get a cheaper gyro online, but yeah this setup will be about $150

If stable and able to take either camera, I think $150 would be reasonable to most riders.
 
Ya'know what's more reasonable?

That it works as intended. :twofinger
 
LOL I read the total as gyno not gyro (but I'm pretty sure that's my inner perv)

I have always wanted to build an similar rig, glad to see you are getting some progress with the gyro's. From reading on RC plane forums they take some time to perfectly tune in to get rid of those jitters.

Here are a few links to others that are working on similar projects:

http://www.mnsportbikeriders.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58448

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jnJRil57Do

I wanted to try to build one that did not rely on electronics but instead used bearings and an pendulum weight to keep the straight orientation of the camera. Figure it would be a bit heavier and bulkier than an servo driven one but a lot cheeper.
 
itll be cool if the weight of the camera dampens out some of the shaky movements from the servo.

def post up what happens when the down direction changes, ie cornering forces, hehe.
 
VERY cool and creative!! I admire people with the imagination and ingenuity to complete home made projects like this... wish I had the skills. Good luck!
 
So I was able to pick up a set of over sized wings for the servo and I drilled it out so that I could secure a RAM mount to the servo. Now, anything with a RAM mount can be mounted to this thing.

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As it turns out, the RAM mount that I picked up and put on the servo was a step larger then the RAM ball that Contour uses on their mounts. I will have to order a size smaller if this works out. But in the mean time, I was able to mount everything up to the bike. I took the rear cowl off first because the first time out I just want to see if this is going to work before I spend more time making a nice neat package. I took a left over sheet of steel and drilled 2 holes in it so that I could screw it into the sub-frame. I used this as my base and I secured the pieces to this with 3M double sided tape and lots of duct tape. I mounted the gyro in front of everything resting against the sub-frame.

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The camera is not going to be pointed exactly in the correct position, but thats because the RAM ball mounts are 2 different sizes at the moment and this is the only angle that will hold it secure. Also, because I can't move the angle, the rear is just ever so slightly resting on the tail of the bike. I think the servo will be strong enough to hold this because I was testing it in a vice on my workbench before hand and it didn't seem to have any issues. But until I get a different size RAM mount for the servo, I will have to just make do with what I can for now.

Test Ride Tomorrow!!!

9-35-92 is my plan. If all goes well I will post up clips for you guys.:ride
 
Went on a little ride today to test out the set-up. Unfortunately I was met with wet roads all around, and I am a little girl when it comes to riding in the wet, so I took it easy for now.

I also ran into another issue. Since I don't have the correct RAM ball mount on the camera, it wasn't held as tightly as it should, thus is moved around a bit. Well, actually it moved around a lot. The vibrations actually caused the camera to turn off many times through out my ride which is a common issue for me and my camera. It even actually fell off the mount completely once :laughing. I had the camera tied in so it didn't go anywhere, but the servo didn't go anywhere.

Since I have everything mounted to a plate (and its suspended), that moved up and down also moving the camera, but that won't be a problem when I put everything together and it mounts to the bodywork. Even though a lot of my ride wasn't recorded, I did figure out where I can improve on the set-up. Remember this was just an initial test.

Here is a small bit heading out on 35 from 4-corners until my camera turns off. I made the mistake of turning on the gyro when the bike was on its side stand. So it then thought that the side stand was the set position. I then get on the bike making it vertical and in compensates and leans left the whole time. Oh well :rofl

The correct size ram ball and new mount for my camera have already shipped. I hope to have then by this weekend and I can make some adjustments and go for round 2.

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Well, at least it DOES work as intended. I can see the rear tail pivoting 'round the center of the video. Just some more polishing here and there, and I'd call it a DIY success. :thumbup

P.S. Methinks 84 past La Honda would make for a much better testing ground for the effectiveness of your gyro once you've stabilized its mounting on the bike.
 
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