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The government wants to take your organs

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So here is the bill...I will follow up with a post to tell you where you can send Assembly person Longville your opposition.

Synopsis is that if you are not wearing a helmet and get killed the government can automatically harvest your organs without permission. :mad

Many of you believe in wearing a helmet..like me. But this again is an assualt on our rights from big brother. If you get pulled over and don't have the donor thing on your license what happens..
Sign on the spot..go to jail...? What is next...mandatory leathers or they get your kidney???

This is one hell of an invasion on my rights as a human.

Yes I know it against the law to not wear one...
But "what if" they change things going forward...
Your speeding and get killed...do they get your liver???
That is against the law too.

Like most government reg's concerning bikes they continue to take away our freedoms, places to ride,etc.....and when will it be deemed to dangerous by the masses to "ride" a bike.

Every one of these issues that take a piece of our right to ride away is one step closer to losing our right to make choices..:(

I have signed the donor card..by my choice...I don't need Longville to mandate my life on my bike and beyond..

This is BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!

Hope you agree and send a message to him telling him the way you feel....for me it is about freedom :flag

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BILL NUMBER: AB 1200 AMENDED
BILL TEXT

AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY JANUARY 5, 2004

INTRODUCED BY Assembly Member Longville

FEBRUARY 21, 2003

An act to amend Section 7150.2 of the Health and Safety Code,
to amend Section Sections 1672 and
27803 of , and to add Section 1672.1 to, the Vehicle
Code, relating to vehicles.



LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST


AB 1200, as amended, Longville. Vehicles: motorcycles: helmets
: anatomical gifts .
Under
(1) The Uniform Anatomical Gift Act establishes general
requirements and procedures for the donation of body parts and
imposes the responsibility for the oversight and implementation of
that act in the State Department of Health Services, which is
required to adopt regulations to implement that act.
This bill would provide that a person who operates or is a
passenger on a motorcycle, motor-driven cycle, or motorized bicycle
on the highways and who does not wear a safety helmet, as defined, is
deemed to have consented to the making of an anatomical gift under
the act. The bill would require the department to adopt regulations
to implement this requirement and would make conforming changes in
the Vehicle Code.
(2) Under existing law, it is unlawful for any person to
operate a motorcycle, motor-driven cycle, or motorized bicycle if the
driver or any passenger is not wearing a safety helmet. Existing
law also makes it unlawful to ride as a passenger on a motorcycle if
the driver or any passenger is not wearing a safety helmet.
This bill would limit the above-referenced requirements for
wearing safety helmets to drivers and passengers who are 17 years of
age or less.
Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes.
State-mandated local program: no.


THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:


SECTION 1. Section 7150.2 of the Health and Safety Code is
amended to read:
7150.2. (a) The State Department of Health Services shall have
oversight and regulatory authority with respect to the implementation
in this state of the Uniform Anatomical Gift Act.
(b) The State Department of Health Services shall adopt
regulations that provide for the implementation of this chapter
and Section 1672.1 of the Vehicle Code . Regulations adopted
pursuant to this section shall include, but not be limited to,
providing public awareness of being an organ and tissue donor and of
the importance of informed consent prior to donation.
(c) (1) It is the intent of the Legislature that no provision of
this section be construed to be in conflict with federal law.
(2) The provisions of this section are severable. If any
provision of this section or its application is held invalid, that
invalidity shall not affect other provisions or applications that can
be given effect without the invalid provision or application.

SEC. 2. Section 1672 of the Vehicle Code is amended to read:

1672. (a) The department shall make available, in the public area
of each office of the department where applications for driver's
licenses or identification cards are received, space for a sign or
notice briefly describing the Uniform Anatomical Gift Act (Chapter
3.5 (commencing with Section 7150) of Part 1 of Division 7 of the
Health and Safety Code) , information informing persons of the
consent provisions of Section 1672.1, and information about the
California Organ and Tissue Donor Registry and about how private
donations may be made.
(b) The department shall make available to the public in its
offices a pamphlet or brochure providing more detailed information on
the California Organ and Tissue Donor Registry and information about
how private donations may be made.
(c) The signs, notices, pamphlets, and brochures specified in
subdivisions (a) and (b) shall be provided without cost to the
department by responsible private parties associated with the
anatomical gift program.
SEC. 3. Section 1672.1 is added to the Vehicle Code, to read:
1672.1. (a) A person who operates or is a passenger on a
motorcycle, motor-driven cycle, or motorized bicycle on the highways
and who does not wear a safety helmet, as defined in subdivision (e)
of Section 27803, is deemed to have consented to the making of an
anatomical gift under the Uniform Anatomical Gift Act (Chapter 3.5
(commencing with Section 7150) of Part 1 of Division 7 of the Health
and Safety Code).
(b) A person who applies for a Class M1 driver's license or
endorsement under this code shall be informed of the implied consent
provisions of subdivision (a).
SEC. 4. Section 27803 of the Vehicle Code is amended to
read:
27803. (a) A driver who is 17 years of age or less and any
passenger who is 17 years of age or less shall wear a safety helmet
meeting requirements established pursuant to Section 27802 when
riding on a motorcycle, motor-driven cycle, or motorized bicycle.
(b) It is unlawful to operate a motorcycle, motor-driven cycle, or
motorized bicycle if the driver or any passenger is not wearing a
safety helmet as required by subdivision (a).
(c) It is unlawful to ride as a passenger on a motorcycle,
motor-driven cycle, or motorized bicycle if the driver or any
passenger is not wearing a safety helmet as required by subdivision
(a).
(d) This section applies to persons who are riding on motorcycles,
motor-driven cycles, or motorized bicycles operated on the highways.

(e) For the purposes of this section, "wear a safety helmet" or
"wearing a safety helmet" means having a safety helmet meeting the
requirements of Section 27802 on the person's head that is fastened
with the helmet straps and that is of a size that fits the wearing
person's head securely without excessive lateral or vertical
movement.
(f) This section does not apply to a person operating, or riding
as a passenger in, a fully enclosed three-wheeled motor vehicle that
is not less than seven feet in length and not less than four feet in
width, and has an unladen weight of 900 pounds or more, if the
vehicle meets or exceeds all of the requirements of this code, the
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards, and the rules and regulations
adopted by the United States Department of Transportation and the
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
(g) In enacting this section, it is the intent of the Legislature
to ensure that all persons who are 17 years of age or less are
provided with an additional safety benefit while operating or riding
a motorcycle, motor-driven cycle, or motorized bicycle.
 
Here's how to voice your opinion where it counts

Longville's contact info

(916) 319-2062 call him and complain!

and email your thoughts to:
mailto:Assemblymember.Longville@assembly.ca.gov

or here is an easy way.
Let Longville know how you feel about his 'Anatomical Gifts' proposal:
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/legcomment/legcomment.asp?bill_number=ab_1200&author=longville

Hope that :barf realizes our right to ride is precious and worth a few minutes to take action :thumbup

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Wasn't this brought up last year? It's actually true still?


sick stuff....
 
No forget to click oppose.

Here is my comment to our fine assembly person:

"My organs are my own. I have signed an organ donor card on my own without out you mandating such. Your bill is another assault on our freedom. What is next?? Have to be an organ donor to have a license? You now have a strong opposition to your career here in Kalifornia."
Dennis
 
Bad Dad said:
Wasn't this brought up last year? It's actually true still?


sick stuff....

Yes...and it goes to vote on Monday...now! is the time to act.

This info has come from the AMA...just today as an ammendment seems to have magically slid back into the bill....bastids!


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opposed.

Budman, thanks for posting it.

It's bad enough that if you elect to gift your organs (the red dot on your license) that they are harvested and sold by a for profit organisationto the highest bidder.

That they should be taken against your consent is an absolute affront.

I wonder if it could be construed that attaching or not the red donor spot is part of your Will?
 
here's my comments..

Dear sir, Should we also make it mandatory for anyone dying in the act of a felony? Wouldn't it make more sense to go after someone actually committing a crime? Or how about prisoners?!! That's got to be a smorgasbord of healthy organs as a result of doing nothing but working out all day! And then after that we can go after anyone who causes a traffic accident and dies in the process! And then, anyone who over-eats and gives themselves heart problems and dies! They've got to at least have good corneas and other organs aside from their damaged heart, right!

This has got to be one of the most morbid and inhumane things I have ever heard of. - Marco Benson


What district is this scumbag from?
 
Nice Marco...good thoughts too!

I will check on his district.

Thanks Thump!

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just a suggestion budman.


I ignore all of the stickies at the top as they are usually there forever.

I lost this one until I looked for it.

It might be better to unsticky and keep bumping it?
 
Leave it stuck and bump often!!!!!!!!!!

We have until Monday to be heard!!!!!!

I posted a link in the Kitchen sink for the sinkers..:teeth

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"Are you kidding me? Do not think singling out motocyclists in the biggest motor cycle state in the country is a wise idea. Nor, is trampling our own rights to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". Certainly, our activities in life should not sanction our freedoms in death. Taking our organs? Yeah. right. We'll make that choice, indivdually, irrespective of our "choice" in life. Most Motorcyclists are very giving...especially of information dissemination on your intent to take what is ours.

Good luck, and please rescind this ridiculous idea of a bill. The purpose it serves has been grossely perverted."
 
Sweet Holeshot...can wait to see what RobertR1 has to say:teeth


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That's messed up .... hmmm how about you have to wear a helmet in a car ???
 
I just hope nobody gets their brains.

If you're enough of a self-centered POS to not share your organs in the first place, then I'm willing to do the right thing for you and harvest them anyways. Too many deserving people that can use them and appreciate them. Everyone should be a donor. Everyone. Period.

If you are going to take the kind of risk that may mean death at a viable and helathy age, then it is the only responsible and decent choice to make, but if you are so blatantly arrogant as not to make a better choice, then I see nothing wrong or infringing about the possible good that may be salvaged from your poor decisions in life.
 
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quit tripin

check it out guys. no matter what.... you are dead. would you rather die but be able to donate an organ and save someone elses life that can be successfull? or do u want to take your not needed organs to grave? no offence to the person who is against this but quit thinkin about yourself and this about others in life. life is to short and if you die you might as well make it longer for someone else.
 
you both my friends are idiots.

key word in your statment is "should" be. Yes, in my opinion everyone "should be" but to make it involuntary is a little like organ harvesting.

As soon as it's "involuntary" how long do you think it would take these "organ brokers" to slip across that line of morality and move to "job security" and start helping people along to donorship?

What about people's religious beliefs?

Good god, what about our RIGHT to choose for ourselves? Do you support abortion?
 
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Quit trippin. You're parents are dead! Would you rather you be allowed to keep what they left you? Nah...let the state have their house, wealth, heirlooms and your sisters!

U-N-I-T-E-D S-T-A-T-E-S.... There exists a constitution...and it's center piece is freedom. Think about it.

What's yours is yours...to give and keep as you wish...NOT the state's. That is called...what's that word....Ah yes...socialism.
 
license2ill said:
I just hope nobody gets their brains.

If you're enough of a self-centered POS to not share your organs in the first place, then I'm willing to do the right thing for you and harvest them anyways. Too many deserving people that can use them and appreciate them. Everyone should be a donor. Everyone. Period.

If you are going to take the kind of risk that may mean death at a viable and helathy age, then it is the only responsible and decent choice to make, but if you are so blatantly arrogant as not to make a better choice, then I see nothing wrong or infringing about the possible good that may be salvaged from your poor decisions in life.


I regard my body as sacrosanct, sir. If I make the decision to 'donate' any portion of it once I have passed on, then that decision shall be mine and mine alone, not at the whim of some faceless 'private party' (read: organ harvesting clearinghouse, run very much AT A PROFIT), politician, or the cop first on the scene who decides to make a quick buck by removing the helmet and tossing it in the bushes.

And yes, I am aware of your other views. You and I have butted heads before. At one point I regarded you as a reasonable human being, if a bit hotheaded. I see I was wrong - you are far from reasonable, and "human" is also a far stretch.



ALL: apologies for the flaming. I just can't abide by this sort of crap... it's people like THIS what cause unrest!!!
 
Oh... i WAS going to post the fact that I sent the text of AB1200 to mr. Wyld, the president of the Motorcycle Riders Foundation, so that he could possibly post it as a national call to action.

http://www.mrf.org

But I seem to have gotten sidetracked by an idiot. D'oH!
 
That holy attitude is exactly the crap that creates bullshit environments that terrorize the world....Taliban, Hitler, Saddam,...

Do it for me??? Thanks , but no thanks. WTF gives you the right?

The Country already does too much for me in many ways and I think that making our own decisions as long as it does not affect the society negatively is what it is all about..:flag

Do you ride bikes ill??

If someone like you wanted motorcycles gone and had the power to do it are you going to get mad?? Or will that make you happy to conform for the good of society...where does that end...? When will it affect you or your family.??

When will you stand up?

I thinking skewing this info to make anyone who is not donating organs someone of less value in this world (POS) is not making your point; which, was a good one. Every one should donate.
I believe; however, that every one should have thechoice.
It is their body, their religious beliefs and these should be honored. .

I welcome your opinion..I thought I would give you mine.





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