I got the same advice from the English Pastor Dad of my English roommate.well the door to door Mormons just left my door after telling me to continue to read the Torah. That was nice advice. Dude was 81
This is patently wrong. Humans and their ancestors have been eating plant material as early as 4 million years ago. They started eating meat 170,000 years ago. The 12,000 year time frame you mention is the advent of agriculture. As you state, humans were Hunter gatherers long before they produced their own food. Gatherers refers to fruit and plant collecting.Just 4% of human's history includes eating anything plant related, and that started at most 12,000 years ago.
Put into Perspective
To visualize this, imagine the entire 300,000-year history of Homo sapiens compressed into a 24-hour day:
Our bodies have done effectively no evolving since starting to eat plants.
- Humans live as hunter-gatherers for 23 hours and 2.4 seconds.
- The Agricultural Revolution begins at 11:02 PM.
- The entire Industrial Revolution and the modern digital age occur in the last 6 seconds before midnight.
Hmmm
sure, when they were starving or they came upon berries they would eat them, but we didn't start planting food to eat as a replacement to meat until just 12,000 years agoThis is patently wrong. Humans and their ancestors have been eating plant material as early as 4 million years ago. They started eating meat 170,000 years ago. The 12,000 year time frame you mention is the advent of agriculture. As you state, humans were Hunter gatherers long before they produced their own food. Gatherers refers to fruit and plant collecting.


I don't think your reading comprehension is very good. For millions of years, human ancestrors existed solely on plant-based food. There is a lot of evidence that they scavenged rotting flesh during this time. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/blog...tist-studying-how-humans-started-eating-meat/ If you look at the dentition of our species, you can clearly see we are designed to eat mostly plants, with some meat. About 180,000 years ago humans figured out how to cook meat. https://www.discovermagazine.com/not-all-prehistoric-humans-loved-meat-some-were-vegetarians-45811About 12,000 years ago, humans started growing their own food. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10104519/sure, when they were starving or they came upon berries they would eat them, but we didn't start planting food to eat as a replacement to meat until just 12,000 years ago
Homo sapiens appeared 300,000 years ago and are 99.99% us in terms of DNA. When you referenced millions of years ago, you are referencing a species that is not Homo sapiens, so not relevant to us or our modern diet.I don't think your reading comprehension is very good. For millions of years, human ancestrors existed solely on plant-based food. There is a lot of evidence that they scavenged rotting flesh during this time. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/blog...tist-studying-how-humans-started-eating-meat/ If you look at the dentition of our species, you can clearly see we are designed to eat mostly plants, with some meat. About 180,000 years ago humans figured out how to cook meat. https://www.discovermagazine.com/not-all-prehistoric-humans-loved-meat-some-were-vegetarians-45811About 12,000 years ago, humans started growing their own food. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10104519/
This is the exact opposite of what you have been saying.
Ugh. Ok. I'll go with what you are saying despite the facts that I mentioned "human ancestors", which are not just another species. They are what we evolved from. Regardless, the data is the same. 300,000 years ago Homo sapiens are primarily plant material or what meat they scavenged. 180,000 years ago they learned to cook meat, which expanded their abilities to hunt. 12,000 years ago they learned to grow their own food in the form of agriculture. This is exactly the same as what I said before and I don't know what the point of contention is.
You are saying the exact opposite, that humans didn't eat anything but meat until 12,000 years ago. This is false. You also say that humans "effectively stopped evolving after we started eating plants." As I pointed out previously with links, humans have eaten plant material since before they were even a species. But I'll also add that we continue to evolve and actually, as a result of the advent of agriculture, our evolution has gone into overdrive. We developed the ability to digest lactose, digest starches, and resist diseases. Our physical stature and jawline have also changed dramatically.
Not sure where you get your info, but I'd look elsewhere.
I'm sure I'll know my point when I see it!

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