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23 year old girl got killed - I think it's her fault
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Why was she in a drug court program? She was told to keep out of trouble for 1 year and her charges would of been dropped and wiped clean from her record.
She continued on her path of with involvement with drugs and she got snagged a second time which lead to the cops offering her this role of an informant. It says it right in the beginning of the video.
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Wow, you guys are incredible.
Take a step back from your pot pipe and look at it objectively.
She was a college graduate and convicted drug dealer, she wasn't some innocent girl who smoked a little weed.
She violated her drug court probation by agreeing to be a drug informant.
Did the police screw up? Ya, I think so. She was to inexperienced to be an informant on a deal like that.
The chief has to measure his words very carefully as he will surly be sued, so sure he comes off sounding like an asshole. He doesn't have the luxury of admitting they were wrong to use her.
The girl knew the dangers, or should have known the dangers. She was trying to get out of the charges she was facing and possible prison time because she didn't learn from the first chance she was given. I see this so many times it makes me sick. You guys are all high on personal responsibility yet you don't seem to think she needed to take responsibility for her actions.
She could always have said no......
Yea a persons life is shit away, time to circle the wagons, protect careers and blame the victim. You are giving the incompetent liars an excuse to continue being incompetent liars.Screw up? No, negligent homicide if you ask me.
Screw up? No, negligent homicide if you ask me.
The cops are to blame for the failed drug bust. No one is arguing this fact. Yet the point remains this chick made some dumb ass decisions. 1 year and she would of meet the conditions of her drug court diversion program. Her record would of been wiped clean and she would be free to do as she wanted in life.
gogounited
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Wow, you guys are incredible.
Take a step back from your pot pipe and look at it objectively.
She was a college graduate and convicted drug dealer, she wasn't some innocent girl who smoked a little weed.
She violated her drug court probation by agreeing to be a drug informant.
Did the police screw up? Ya, I think so. She was to inexperienced to be an informant on a deal like that.
The chief has to measure his words very carefully as he will surly be sued, so sure he comes off sounding like an asshole. He doesn't have the luxury of admitting they were wrong to use her.
The girl knew the dangers, or should have known the dangers. She was trying to get out of the charges she was facing and possible prison time because she didn't learn from the first chance she was given. I see this so many times it makes me sick. You guys are all high on personal responsibility yet you don't seem to think she needed to take responsibility for her actions.
She could always have said no......
So, if you're the police you shouldn't admit when you're wrong, even if you're wrong.
Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
Let's be clear, even if she WAS charged and convicted, that's not what inevitably led to her death. The death was a direct result of a bust gone wrong.
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Ant
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Devils advocate:
what would have been the scenario had she decided to not mess around with drugs and steered clear of that lifestyle? Simple question really.
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Or even, what if she always stayed indoors, except to walk carefully to the store.
Come to think of it, every person ever hurt in a car accident, or in fact hurt doing anything other than sleeping, eating and going to work or the supermarket was basically asking for it anyways.
Devils advocate: What if we didn't get fucked with by the gov't because we inhale smoke from a smouldering herb? I don't give a fuck who decided what for what reasons...it's fucking bullshit.
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how about this one:
What difference (in action) was there between the druggies who killed her, and the police department ?
Seems to me they were both perfectly willing to exploit an innocent (compared to their level of experience in illegal activities) for their own gain....one just went a little further
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Ant
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Not saying the cops didn't fuck up and should SHARE the blame, just commenting on your comment regarding personal responsibility.
Had she took the first warning and decided "enough of this shit for me" she wouldn't have put herself in such danger and by danger I mean cops who screwed up and dealers with guns. The cop in the video was a tard no doubt.
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That is the saddest part of this whole story.
The police department running the sting did a piss poor job and she's dead because of it. She is also dead because the hard core drug dealers most likely figured out she was an informant with a few simple questions on the phone. Got her out of the sting zone and capped her.
Will they admit that in a TV interview, nope? I'm sure the guy answering the interview questions was trained to not admit fault for anything because it can be admitted as evidence in court.
However, I hope I raise my daughter to be smart enough that if she is on probation for a year for a minor drug offense to not have a 1/4 lbs of MJ and other crap in her possession.
I'm not against legalizing the small time use of MJ but currently the law is what it is until it changes. If one is going to break the laws one needs to be savvy enough to not get caught or know how to stay under the felony limits.
gogounited
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Well, I think smoking and/or selling weed aren't such bad things, so if the laws weren't retarded regarding this then she would never have been charged in the first place.
It was bad judgement for her to put herself in a position to get caught twice. Then again, even though she was still jacking around with drugs after the initial charge, that doesn't mean she should have ever been offered the deal by the cops. She'd probably still be alive even if she'd screwed up a third or fourth time by now.
We could speculate on the what-ifs for days though. So many simple, trivial things could have saved her life. Like a charged cell battery, for instance.
Ant
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Exactly.
Mix the whole scenario together and you have a dangerous world to be traveling in.
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Well, I think smoking and/or selling weed aren't such bad things, so if the laws weren't retarded regarding this then she would never have been charged in the first place.
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I think the speed limit law is retarded on certain stretches of barren waste land freeway but if I get caught and charged with a felony reckless driving I better be willing to accept that I'll do jail time for it.
That's why I don't own an extremely fast car!
gogounited
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Well, I think smoking and/or selling weed aren't such bad things, so if the laws weren't retarded regarding this then she would never have been charged in the first place.
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I think the speed limit law is retarded on certain stretches of barren waste land freeway but if I get caught and charged with a felony reckless driving I better be willing to accept that I'll do jail time for it.
That's why I don't own an extremely fast car!
True.And I can't presume to know what this girl did expect from her infractions. All I know is that she shouldn't have been offered the deal to be an informant, and even if that were okay, she was really let down by those whose duty it was to protect her.
Here's a question, if it were your daughter (God forbid, of course) but hypothetically speaking, would you have advised her to take the deal being offered, in hopes that the charges were dropped/reduced or whatever? Or would you have told her to go serve her time? If she did accept the deal, would you have entrusted the police to her safety?
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I blame Nixon.