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Old 11-30-2017, 03:11 PM   #61
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I'm also glad there is no mention of top speed / delta.

There seems to be a large number of the population, mostly just cars drivers, that think splitting in traffic over 35-45mph is wrong and unnecessary, calling it asshole behavior. I think that's just ridiculous. I might as well just drive.

I was listening to the latest Motorcycles and Misfits and an INSTRUCTOR is telling the audience that it is illegal to split over 40mph

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Old 12-15-2017, 03:15 PM   #62
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Lots of us ride in pretty dense traffic these days and appreciate the advantages lane splitting gives us. We know we leave car drivers with an impression but have you ever estimated how many car drivers you come into contact with each day?

I did a couple of counts yesterday evening on the heaviest part of my commute, which heads east over the Dumbarton Bridge towards Fremont. The stop lights leading up to the bridge were at a standstill, so traffic was very dense. The density over the bridge itself was somewhat less but still heavy, as is typical on a weeknight.

Based on my counts, I'd conservatively say I passed between 1,300 cars in the 13 miles from Marsh Road & 101 to 84 & 880. These are cars that were either directly to my left or right as I split.

Your own numbers may be higher or lower but for any one of us, that's a lot of eyeballs witnessing how we behave on motorcycles. Along with any other safety consideration we may have, it's worth keeping in mind that each of us leaves a considerable mark on public opinion every time we ride.
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Old 12-15-2017, 05:03 PM   #63
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Old 12-16-2017, 09:09 PM   #65
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Your own numbers may be higher or lower but for any one of us, that's a lot of eyeballs witnessing how we behave on motorcycles. Along with any other safety consideration we may have, it's worth keeping in mind that each of us leaves a considerable mark on public opinion every time we ride.
Good thing I have a short commute!

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Old 02-10-2018, 09:29 AM   #66
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AMA Magazine had an article on this in the recent issue.
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AMA Magazine had an article on this in the recent issue.
Quoting to say Coolest avatar I have seen in a long time. Nicky tribute and rockets landing.
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Old 02-10-2018, 10:49 AM   #68
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Hmmm... I did not see it. Where the heck is my mag!
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Hmmm... I did not see it. Where the heck is my mag!
Just got my copy today. Page 16 top left nice article.
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Old 02-16-2018, 04:56 PM   #71
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I am actually getting reach outs from around the country asking to see them. Very cool.
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The picture they chose to use there is pretty much perfect in every way. It says a lot with no words, screams *doing it right*.
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Lane Splitting – Filtering – Sharing Guidelines

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Your safety depends on your good judgment:
  • Don't expect to be seen. Lane-splitters are hard to see and some drivers are distracted.
  • Keep speed down so you have time and space to react to hazards.
  • Avoid splitting next to large trucks and other wide vehicles. They reduce space available and can be deadly in a crash.
  • Leave a margin for error, so when someone makes a mistake in the tight confines of the splitting corridor, it may not end in a crash.
  • Respect other motorists. Commuting is a cheerless grind for everyone. Don't make it harder for them even if a few make it harder for you.
  • Watch for lane changes, they are a frequent cause of crashes.
Less risk:
  • Lower traffic speed and speed differential.
  • Wider lanes.
  • Dense bumper-to-bumper traffic that limits ability of vehicles to change lanes.
  • Left-most lanes farther from merging and exiting traffic.
More risk:
  • Higher traffic speed or speed differential.
  • Narrow lanes, wide vehicles.
  • Gap in traffic that permits a quick lane change across the splitting corridor.
  • Right side lanes near merging and exiting traffic.
  • Intersections and crosswalks in the city.
  • Following or being followed closely by another motorcycle.
  • Night time or wet pavement.
Minimize your risk:
  • Ride with your head and eyes up, looking well ahead.
  • Anticipate the flow of traffic and predict hazards.
  • Limit your speed to 10-15 miles per hour above surrounding traffic. This helps others to see you and gives you more time and space to react to hazards.
  • Adjust your speed for road and weather conditions.
  • Cover your brakes to reduce reaction time.
  • Keep your hands and feet on the controls.
  • Don't split when traffic is moving at higher speeds. It raises risk but saves little time.
  • Be skilled at maximum braking and swerving.

Disclaimer: Lane Splitting can be dangerous, you could be seriously hurt or killed. These guidelines are meant to provide basic information based on experienced riders/commuters input and the SafeTrec Lane Splitting study by UC Berkeley. There is no guarantee these guidelines will keep you safe. Ride with extreme vigilance.
Additional tips are available at: www.bayarearidersforum.com/features and www.bayarearidersforum.com/1Rider


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The above is the same as the PDF Budman linked in his OP, but forum-formatted for your reading convenience.
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Old 03-26-2018, 10:21 AM   #74
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Very nice, Dan.

I make a point to say thanks to people that make a little extra room. I'd like to hope a good gesture now will pay dividends in the future.

I wish there was a way to convey to car drivers to not overly get out of the way, and definitely not exit the lane, or drive in the shoulder. Motorbikes are somewhat narrow. They don't need all that much space. When car drivers get way too much out of the way, they may lose visual contact with other splitters, and when the driver moves back in the middle of the lane, there could other splitters going by.
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