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Old 01-22-2014, 01:37 PM   #1
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Email from AMA on black boxes

Just received this today. Time to send a letter or Email.



On Jan. 14th U.S. Sens. John Hoeven (R.-N.D.) and Amy Klobuchar (D.-Minn.) introduced S. 1925, the Driver Privacy Act.

The bill would codify that information collected by an event data recorder – commonly referred to as a black box – would be the legal property of the owner or lessee of a passenger motor vehicle.

However, as currently written, S. 1925 only provides privacy protections to vehicles that are specifically mentioned in CFR 49, section 563. This section does not include any reference to motorcycles!

As a result, the privacy protections offered to passenger motor vehicles would not extend to motorcyclists. In fact, all information collected from motorcyclists would remain unprotected.

Please contact your senators today and urge them to protect motorcyclists’ rights. You can send your senators a prewritten message by clicking on the “Protect My Privacy” button above or filling out the form below.

The American Motorcyclist Association supports clarifying who owns the data collected in black boxes – currently only 14 states have laws relating to ownership of data in an event data recorder.

This issue needs to be resolved because, as Sen. Hoeven said on the floor of the U.S. Senate: “There are more than 45 different data points that are in fact recorded right now. Again, the manufacturer can change this – add to it. There are no limitations or restrictions or guidelines or requirements on what manufacturers can have the event data recorder do.”

While event data recorders are not currently required for motorcycles, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration already requires all passenger cars, multipurpose passenger vehicles, trucks, and buses to be equipped with a black box. The AMA believes it is only a matter of time before this mandate extends to motorcycles.

The AMA fully supports extending the provisions in S. 1925 to motorcyclists, in much the same manner that the U.S. House of Representatives’ H.R. 2414, the Black Box Privacy Protection Act, would. The AMA fully supports the bipartisan House bill.

The AMA submitted comments to Sens. Hoeven and Klobuchar. You can view the AMA's comments online.

If you are not yet an AMA member, please join the AMA to help us fight efforts to restrict your right to ride. More members means more clout against our opponents, and your support will help us fight for your riding rights – on the road, trail, racetrack, and in the halls of government. To join, go to AmericanMotorcyclist.com/membership/join.
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Thank you for alerting everyone to this. Budman also started a thread.

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/fo...d.php?t=448338
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Old 01-22-2014, 02:12 PM   #3
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Here's a link to how the CA DMV defines a "passenger motor vehicle:"

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d14_9/vc34710.htm

If using the CA definition, there are quite a few exclusions that apply to vehicle enthusiasts of various types.
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Old 01-23-2014, 11:42 PM   #4
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what cages / bikes have this little trouble box in them from the factory?

if i were to have one installed it would be in-coded so only my computer could read the information.
sure any geek could break in and read it, buy why make it easy.

yes soon it will be where a leo could pull up behind you (while still moving down the hwy) and your bike would just him know of your riding fun.
maybe even just a spy box on the side of the rd ������.

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Old 01-24-2014, 04:34 PM   #5
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Actually, we could tamper with it and make us look like grandma riders
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Just received this today. Time to send a letter or Email.
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Please contact your senators today and urge them to protect motorcyclists’ rights. You can send your senators a prewritten message by clicking on the “Protect My Privacy” button above or filling out the form below.
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Perhaps a letter, or that letter could be sent as a group email/letter from barf. Or perhaps we could repost the AMA letter, here.
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Here's a link to how the CA DMV defines a "passenger motor vehicle:"

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d14_9/vc34710.htm

If using the CA definition, there are quite a few exclusions that apply to vehicle enthusiasts of various types.
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Maybe we should start by getting our California State Representatives to change V C Section 34710 Passenger Vehicle Defined. Since it appears that anything with four-wheel drive or a truck chassis is not a Passenger Vehicle. This will SHOCK my Suburban, that holds eight people, but sports both exceptions.
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