Proposal to raise Yosemite motorcycle entrance fees 150% - BARF

YouSeeIt · 10-20-2014, 12:30 PM

The NPS has proposed to raise the entrance fees for motorcycles in Yosemite National Park by 150%!

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...50-5835132.php

Cars' entrance fees will only go up 50%, from $20 to $30. But bikes will have to pay $25 (up from $10)! How do they justify soaking us for almost as much as a car, when bikes (and their riders/passengers) have a fraction of the impact that the cars do?

Please contact the NPS at yose_planning@nps.gov or via U.S. Mail at: Superintendent, Attention: Proposed Fee Increase, P.O. Box 577, Yosemite, CA 95389. Comments are accepted until November 20, 2014. An open house comment forum will be held at the Yosemite Valley Visitor Center on November 12th.

Please contact NPS and point out how excessive this fee hike is. I already sent in my comment - please send your own!

YouSeeIt · 10-20-2014, 12:33 PM

(apologies in advance if I put this in the wrong section, thanks)

NorCalBusa · 10-20-2014, 03:50 PM

Oh hell yeah. That place is freaking overrun with tourists- jack it up and use the dough to keep it pristine. Double for out of state'rs!

**bikeama** · 10-20-2014, 08:01 PM

I have always paid for an annual pass. Now I have a geezer pass

The current park entrance fees have been in place since 1997 and current campground rates since 2006. Yes they are hitting the bikes harder, but still worth the cost. Our National Parks are great.

testrider · 10-20-2014, 08:51 PM

No big deal. It's not like I go to Yosemite everyday...

onabikeagain · 10-21-2014, 11:03 AM

My apologies if this is the wrong subforum for this but it does potentially affect many of us who enjoy visiting parks by motorcycle.

The national park service is proposing to increase fees at many if not all parks and in the case of Yosemite, the fee for motorcycles is proposed to increase from $10 to $25 while cars are increasing by only 50% from $20 to $30:
http://www.nps.gov/yose/parknews/feeincreaseopen.htm

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"30 Day Public Engagement Period Begins Today
Yosemite National Park is proposing to increase entrance fees into the park. The single vehicle entrance fee would change from $20 to $30 for a seven day pass. The park's annual pass would increase from $40 to $60. The current rate of $10 per individual or motorcycle would increase to $15 for an individual and $25 per motorcycle."
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The park service is seeking comments on the proposed increase and there is a link to send comments on the page quoted above. If you care about this, please join in commenting.

I have already sent my comments and indicated that this would increase the cost for my wife and I to ride through Yosemite on our two bikes from $20 to $50 and at that cost, we would likely just go elsewhere. I proposed that a similar increase of 50% in the motorcycle fees from $10 to $15 would be acceptable.

CurveSurfer · 10-21-2014, 11:12 AM

Email sent. $25/bike is a lot, particularly if just passing through (which has low burden on park resources and services).

gixxerjeff · 10-21-2014, 11:18 AM

If the goal is to cut down on park traffic, I suppose ass raping the public with entry fees seems like an effective method.
"Welcome to California, now go home......even if you live here."

matty · 10-21-2014, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onabikeagain

I have already sent my comments and indicated that this would increase the cost for my wife and I to ride through Yosemite on our two bikes from $20 to $50 and at that cost, we would likely just go elsewhere.

If the straight pipe crowd, that seem to like to travel in packs of 5-20, feel this way, I think this would be a good thing for Yosemite.

There's also another thread about it, here
http://bayarearidersforum.com/forums...d.php?t=466418

packnrat · 10-21-2014, 11:44 AM

no lose to me.

far too much traffic, if i wanted to stew in the heat i would just put around any city.

Yakoo752 · 10-21-2014, 11:45 AM

this might change the Hawthorne weekend route

jwb · 10-21-2014, 12:00 PM

It would be neat if they charged less for electric bikes, except there aren't very many with that kind of range.

ilikefood · 10-21-2014, 12:02 PM

I have no problem with this. Of all the things to pay for, supporting national parks seems like a very worthwhile thing.

flying_hun · 10-21-2014, 12:10 PM

Merged

onabikeagain · 10-21-2014, 10:13 PM

Thanks for merging the threads.

I am fully in favor of supporting our national park resources and a reasonable fee increase makes sense. However, increasing the motorcycle fee from $10 to $25 is excessive IMHO.

Also, the proposed increase per motorcycle is significantly out of line with the increase for a car and as the park service is asking for comments, it is a chance to provide feedback before the proposed increase is put in effect.

This seems to me to be bias against motorcycles and an attempt to discourage riding into or through the park. I would think that an increase for motorcycles from $10 to $15 would be more in line with the percent increase applied to cars and that is what I proposed in my feedback.

10-20-2014, 12:30 PM	#1
YouSeeIt Outdated teenager Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: San Francisco Motorcycles: 2008 Suzuki GSX650F Name: Jim	Proposal to raise Yosemite motorcycle entrance fees 150% The NPS has proposed to raise the entrance fees for motorcycles in Yosemite National Park by 150%! http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...50-5835132.php Cars' entrance fees will only go up 50%, from $20 to $30. But bikes will have to pay $25 (up from $10)! How do they justify soaking us for almost as much as a car, when bikes (and their riders/passengers) have a fraction of the impact that the cars do? Please contact the NPS at yose_planning@nps.gov or via U.S. Mail at: Superintendent, Attention: Proposed Fee Increase, P.O. Box 577, Yosemite, CA 95389. Comments are accepted until November 20, 2014. An open house comment forum will be held at the Yosemite Valley Visitor Center on November 12th. Please contact NPS and point out how excessive this fee hike is. I already sent in my comment - please send your own!

10-20-2014, 03:50 PM	#3
NorCalBusa Member #294 Founding Member Contributor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: . Motorcycles: . Name:	Oh hell yeah. That place is freaking overrun with tourists- jack it up and use the dough to keep it pristine. Double for out of state'rs! __________________ If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there.

10-20-2014, 08:01 PM	#4
bikeama Super Moderator AMA #: 1097 BARF Moderator Contributor + 3% Join Date: May 2008 Location: Stockton CA Motorcycles: 2020 BMW S1000XR Lowride. Name: Bill	I have always paid for an annual pass. Now I have a geezer pass The current park entrance fees have been in place since 1997 and current campground rates since 2006. Yes they are hitting the bikes harder, but still worth the cost. Our National Parks are great. __________________ Keep your best wheel forward. Terms of Service: http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/info/tos.php RULES FOR CLASSIFIED. My travel Blog, see tab on Motorcycle Trips for ride reports

10-21-2014, 11:03 AM	#6
onabikeagain re-cycled Contributor Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Silicon Valley Motorcycles: Any and all Name: James	Yosemite entrance fee proposed increases My apologies if this is the wrong subforum for this but it does potentially affect many of us who enjoy visiting parks by motorcycle. The national park service is proposing to increase fees at many if not all parks and in the case of Yosemite, the fee for motorcycles is proposed to increase from $10 to $25 while cars are increasing by only 50% from $20 to $30: http://www.nps.gov/yose/parknews/feeincreaseopen.htm ************************************************************************************************** "30 Day Public Engagement Period Begins Today Yosemite National Park is proposing to increase entrance fees into the park. The single vehicle entrance fee would change from $20 to $30 for a seven day pass. The park's annual pass would increase from $40 to $60. The current rate of $10 per individual or motorcycle would increase to $15 for an individual and $25 per motorcycle." ************************************************************************************************** The park service is seeking comments on the proposed increase and there is a link to send comments on the page quoted above. If you care about this, please join in commenting. I have already sent my comments and indicated that this would increase the cost for my wife and I to ride through Yosemite on our two bikes from $20 to $50 and at that cost, we would likely just go elsewhere. I proposed that a similar increase of 50% in the motorcycle fees from $10 to $15 would be acceptable.

10-21-2014, 11:18 AM	#8
gixxerjeff Dogs best friend Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Santa Rosa Motorcycles: Some fast ones and some dirty ones. Name: Derp	If the goal is to cut down on park traffic, I suppose ass raping the public with entry fees seems like an effective method. "Welcome to California, now go home......even if you live here." __________________ Luck is the residue of desire. You must be fast because I was hauling ass when I passed you. Rich Cox I miss you Rich.

10-20-2014, 12:33 PM	#2
YouSeeIt Outdated teenager Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: San Francisco Motorcycles: 2008 Suzuki GSX650F Name: Jim	(apologies in advance if I put this in the wrong section, thanks)

10-20-2014, 08:51 PM	#5
testrider ... Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Los Angeles Motorcycles: 2014 Yamaha FJR-1300A Name:	No big deal. It's not like I go to Yosemite everyday...

10-21-2014, 11:12 AM	#7
CurveSurfer Veteran Contributor + 1% Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: RWC Motorcycles: '20 Hyper 950SP, '14 GS LC, '95 900-SS/SP, '58 Elite 200SS Name: Colin	Email sent. $25/bike is a lot, particularly if just passing through (which has low burden on park resources and services).

10-21-2014, 11:44 AM	#10
packnrat Veteran Contributor Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: california Motorcycles: 2004 FZ1 1993 klr 650 1978 xl 350 Name:	no lose to me. far too much traffic, if i wanted to stew in the heat i would just put around any city.

10-21-2014, 11:45 AM	#11
Yakoo752 USN AMA # 3164290 Contributor ++++++++++ 2% Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cupertino Motorcycles: M900 Name: Mateusz	this might change the Hawthorne weekend route __________________ IMPERIUM NEPTUNI REGIS-Member of the Barf Chapter of the Ancient Order of Trusty Shellbacks Yoshida Kogyo Kabushikigaisha Team Triple Threat Cygnus 12.02.10

10-21-2014, 12:00 PM	#12
jwb Veteran 1% Contributor Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Oakland Motorcycles: are fun Name:	It would be neat if they charged less for electric bikes, except there aren't very many with that kind of range.

10-21-2014, 12:02 PM	#13
ilikefood Veteran Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: San Francisco Motorcycles: Suzuki DR-Z400SM, Ducati Multistrada 1100S Name:	I have no problem with this. Of all the things to pay for, supporting national parks seems like a very worthwhile thing.

10-21-2014, 10:13 PM	#15
onabikeagain re-cycled Contributor Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Silicon Valley Motorcycles: Any and all Name: James	Thanks for merging the threads. I am fully in favor of supporting our national park resources and a reasonable fee increase makes sense. However, increasing the motorcycle fee from $10 to $25 is excessive IMHO. Also, the proposed increase per motorcycle is significantly out of line with the increase for a car and as the park service is asking for comments, it is a chance to provide feedback before the proposed increase is put in effect. This seems to me to be bias against motorcycles and an attempt to discourage riding into or through the park. I would think that an increase for motorcycles from $10 to $15 would be more in line with the percent increase applied to cars and that is what I proposed in my feedback.

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