Used dealer still hasn't transferred Title - BARF

jessech · 01-01-2021, 11:12 AM

Looking for some advice...
I purchased a used bike from a small used motorcycle dealer on 10/13/20 and he still has not completed the Title Transfer.
I've contacted him a few times and he's given me the run around and keeps telling me 'it should be another week'.
My temp plate is due to expire on 1/11/21 and I just contacted him to tell him if he doesn't get my documents by then I want a refund but no answer.
To make matters worse, I'm now digging through my paperwork and don't really have a complete bill of sale from him... I feel really dumb but I guess great lesson learned, which is to have the dealer show you the Title when completing the sale as well as full receipts...
I'm pretty sure he didn't own the bike which is why there's all this delay.
Any advice on what the laws are and what my options are?
Thanks!

wilit · 01-01-2021, 03:17 PM

My guess is the title is probably held by a bank and the original loan hasn't been paid off, so he doesn't have the title. Sketchy dealers will take vehicles in on trade, load the negative equity onto the new vehicle and when they sell the trade-in, then they pay off the note. You should be able to do a VIN check and see if it still shows a lien holder.

01-01-2021, 11:12 AM	#1
jessech Newbie Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Peninsula Motorcycles: 1098 Name:	Used dealer still hasn't transferred Title Looking for some advice... I purchased a used bike from a small used motorcycle dealer on 10/13/20 and he still has not completed the Title Transfer. I've contacted him a few times and he's given me the run around and keeps telling me 'it should be another week'. My temp plate is due to expire on 1/11/21 and I just contacted him to tell him if he doesn't get my documents by then I want a refund but no answer. To make matters worse, I'm now digging through my paperwork and don't really have a complete bill of sale from him... I feel really dumb but I guess great lesson learned, which is to have the dealer show you the Title when completing the sale as well as full receipts... I'm pretty sure he didn't own the bike which is why there's all this delay. Any advice on what the laws are and what my options are? Thanks!

01-01-2021, 03:17 PM	#2
wilit Veteran Contributor + + Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 37.78514° N 122.40100° W Motorcycles: '01 SV650S '12 350 EXCF Name: Ryan	My guess is the title is probably held by a bank and the original loan hasn't been paid off, so he doesn't have the title. Sketchy dealers will take vehicles in on trade, load the negative equity onto the new vehicle and when they sell the trade-in, then they pay off the note. You should be able to do a VIN check and see if it still shows a lien holder. __________________ "If a man hasn't found something worth dying for, he isn't fit to live." - Martin Luther King Jr. "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin "You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom." - Malcom X "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" - Benjamin Franklin "Americans need never fear their government because of the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation." - James Madison

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