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Old 10-19-2020, 07:42 AM   #601
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A reminder...especially in light of new evidence to show that obesity is a major factor in how hard covid-19 hits people.

The US is far, far worse when it comes to obesity in our population than Sweden.
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Old 10-19-2020, 11:08 AM   #602
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death graph shown looks inconsistent with other sources that have regular updates.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...h-deaths-daily


seems like sensational media hype IMO, but i'm a fan of sweden's approach to handling COVID so i'm biased.
IDK, they have changed their tactics so I guess that's "sensational"?

https://time.com/5901352/sweden-local-lockdowns/

They are now more restrictive in some locations than GOP States so Florida is now your new Sweden.

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Old 10-19-2020, 11:41 AM   #603
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i think it's sensational hype because it shows a doctored graph or inaccurate data to support a story. i'll wait for the news and data to come out, but i personally doubt that Sweden is truly locked down. Again, that's personally my opinion (the opinion of the user dagle). To reiterate, that's my personal opinion on the matter of Sweden, not a claim.
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Sweden has not locked down but is internally discussing doing so.

There is not really anything to debate here. That's what their leaders are publicly reporting.
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Old 10-19-2020, 11:54 AM   #605
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i think it's sensational hype because it shows a doctored graph or inaccurate data to support a story. i'll wait for the news and data to come out, but i personally doubt that Sweden is truly locked down. Again, that's personally my opinion (the opinion of the user dagle). To reiterate, that's my personal opinion on the matter of Sweden, not a claim.
That's why I provided you another link.
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That's why I provided you another link.
This is really interesting from that article

https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/...ovid-19-virus/

In terms of age differences, the results show that antibodies to covid-19 were most common among people aged between 20 and 64 years. Overall, 6.7 per cent of samples in this group were positive, compared with 4.7 per cent in the 0-19 age group and 2.7 per cent in the 65-95 age group.

Seem like it's not herd immunity

Granted it is May data. I'm looking for an update.

One of their colleges did a recent analysis

The study showed that in the period from 31 August to 14 September 2020, only 6 of the 9,907 individuals who participated had an active infection with covid-19. The low incidence of covid-19 in the group is consistent with other observations that the spread of infection in the country remains low.

Found an partial update:
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/...-befolkningen/

The survey shows that 18.7 percent (95 percent confidence interval 14.8-23.3) of the inhabitants of rinkeby-kista district had depretable levels of antibodies. No statistical difference between the sexes or between age groups could be determined.

The analysis also shows that in the dossier there is a higher probability of antibodies in people working in professions with many contacts with other people. This applies, for example, to work in health and social care and service professions. Higher probability also includes people living in a household with five or more people.

The Stockholm region had the highest proportion of antibody positives at week 24, with 11.5 per cent followed by Västra Götaland with 4.9 per cent. Skåne had no antibody positive in the group of residue samples with a confidence interval from 0 to 2.9 percent.
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Old 10-19-2020, 12:36 PM   #607
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That's why I provided you another link.
i didn't bother reading it and likely won't no disrespect, i just don't believe any opinion from media. if there's a citation i missed (i ctrl+F'd for sourc* and cit* and couldn't find it), i'd give it a read but otherwise it's just another article about kim k's butt, cardi b's pepperonis or Removed for political content.
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I assume infections are rising due to weather encouraging people to stay home. It also appears, they are maintaining appropriate protections with the elderly as ICU and deaths remain relatively flat comparatively.
I've always been stuck on weather influencing outbreaks more than anything else. Hot/ Cold shifts push people indoors (not just homes, but everywhere). Time of exposure and concentration of exposure are greater indoors. Humidity is much less. Social distancing is more difficult, etc.
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i didn't bother reading it and likely won't no disrespect, i just don't believe any opinion from media. if there's a citation i missed (i ctrl+F'd for sourc* and cit* and couldn't find it), i'd give it a read but otherwise it's just another article about kim k's butt, cardi b's pepperonis or Removed for political content.
I get that. It's too hard to find real actual data to look out.

Infections / Hospitalizations/Deaths



It will be interesting to see if hospitalizations and deaths increase significantly or if we've identified "appropriate" treatment paths.
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it's almost like we're having the same conversation from 3 months ago, just go back 20 pages... that's literally what i said and was thinking about when i bumped this thread. i think sweden's doing something right, and i don't care about the politics, i care about what IV's they use, drugs, respirator/or not, hydration, nutrition, etc.

so we can find out if the huge number of deaths initially were actually all the old people and now we're relatively safe to open up because the majority of vulnerable people are already gone (high risk people stay home)
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^--- that was in re: sweden, not US.
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What we know they did was lock down all the LTACs after they determined most of the deaths were coming from them.

They aren't locked down anymore.

Time will tell
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