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Old 04-17-2021, 04:05 PM   #31
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Perfect do-all motorcycle... Start with a road race frame so that you have a good solid foundation, but relax the geometry a bit so it isn't too twitchy in the dirt. Then I'm thinking 500cc twin so it has enough power to cruise down the freeway and enough grunt for off-road situations, but otherwise not too heavy. Probably want long-travel suspension for rough terrain. Certainly 21 and 18 inch wheels so you have both on and off road tire options. Comfy ergonomics are a must. Good lighting for night time adventures. And a basic utility rack for minimal over-night gear. Done!

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Old 04-17-2021, 04:34 PM   #32
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That low exhaust would make me nervous! My KLR skid play has played the role of of rock-roller many times, so I find it hard to imagine doing similar rides in above! Also, exposed oil filter is asking for a kicked up stone to pierce it...

I'll stick with my el burro KLR....


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Old 04-17-2021, 07:18 PM   #33
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I think the answer to this thread is long travel suspension and on and off road capabilities.

Thus, my 1987 Honda Magna shall do.
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Old 04-18-2021, 04:20 PM   #34
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That low exhaust would make me nervous! My KLR skid play has played the role of of rock-roller many times, so I find it hard to imagine doing similar rides in above! Also, exposed oil filter is asking for a kicked up stone to pierce it...

I'll stick with my el burro KLR....
I think the original question was: "What's your favourite do it all motorcycle?"... not bash on the other guy's bike. Always a fucking critic in every crowd
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Old 04-18-2021, 04:53 PM   #35
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When I had the DRZ, it was hell on the freeway. PURE HELL. I remember being passed by an old woman who was like 100 yrs old. in a 90’s Toyota Corolla.
How fast was she going? My DRZ-SM certainly isn't great or comfortable on the highway, but it will go 80+ mph. Though of course it doesn't accelerate very hard. It sounds like it's about to fall apart at that speed but that's normal. With stock gearing, the redline in 5th gear is somewhere north of 100 mph.
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Old 04-18-2021, 04:58 PM   #36
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Probably KTM 790 Adventure with 17" wheels. Or perhaps a 790 Duke, though city riding requires longer-travel suspension. I have 2 bikes - a Multi 1100S for longer highway trips (including a 54-mile roundtrip commute back when commuting was a thing), and a DRZ-SM for the city. I think the 790 Adventure would do both reasonably well. But of course multiple bikes are MUCH better!
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Old 04-18-2021, 05:43 PM   #37
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Perfect do-all motorcycle... Start with a road race frame so that you have a good solid foundation, but relax the geometry a bit so it isn't too twitchy in the dirt. Then I'm thinking 500cc twin so it has enough power to cruise down the freeway and enough grunt for off-road situations, but otherwise not too heavy. Probably want long-travel suspension for rough terrain. Certainly 21 and 18 inch wheels so you have both on and off road tire options. Comfy ergonomics are a must. Good lighting for night time adventures. And a basic utility rack for minimal over-night gear. Done!
very cool!
what is the weight?

I have seen guys take a cb500x engine and stick it in a CRF250L! (requires cutting the frame)
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Old 04-18-2021, 06:13 PM   #38
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How fast was she going? My DRZ-SM certainly isn't great or comfortable on the highway, but it will go 80+ mph. Though of course it doesn't accelerate very hard. It sounds like it's about to fall apart at that speed but that's normal. With stock gearing, the redline in 5th gear is somewhere north of 100 mph.
Yeah, it was okay, but a 200lb rider on 400cc’s at that gearing just kinda sucked.
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Old 04-18-2021, 06:23 PM   #39
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very cool!
what is the weight?

I have seen guys take a cb500x engine and stick it in a CRF250L! (requires cutting the frame)
Thanks! glad you like it.

I haven't had a chance to weigh it, but its based on a road race bike that originally weighed around 325 dry. So just guessing I'd say its probably a bit over 400, but that's a guess.

The CB500 + CRF250 sound like a great combo. I've always been fascinated with street bikes turned into dirt bikes. A few years back there was company making adventure bikes out of older Ducati Monsters. To me that just sounds so fun!

My bike was cobbled together in 60 days for the Dirtbag Challenge so it's far from ideal, but still super fun to ride.
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It's the VStrom 650 and anyone who suggests otherwise is wrong.

Really though, it's a good balance and quite a bargain.

If money and reliability are no object, probably one of them european adv bikes as suggested above, or the yamaha T7.

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Old 04-18-2021, 06:49 PM   #41
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The drz Wins again..
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:55 PM   #43
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for me, it would be any moto with a standard clutch/transmission. i just really enjoy the process of whacking the throttle open, feel the rpms climb, clutch in, shift, clutch out, and then repeat.

i had a very serious back/leg/hip issue. so much that I bought an automatic car. i ended up getting my ninja 650 here on barf several months later, not knowing if i could even manage balancing the bike, or lifting my leg to shift. Test ride worked out fine- so i was beyond stoked.

The Ninja 650 ain't too sexy, sounds like a sewing machine (some people say), not smooth nor fast like my old Honda F2. but i can wring the throttle and upshift, downshift and i just really enjoy that part of riding a moto. i'm sure that electric moto or nc700dct are fun in their own rights, but also knowing that clutch riding / driving is a dying art. And I'm going to keep doing it as long as I can.
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Old 04-19-2021, 08:28 AM   #45
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It's the VStrom 650 and anyone who suggests otherwise is wrong.

Really though, it's a good balance and quite a bargain.
I agree about the 'Strom, although my previous bike was a heavily modded DR650 and it's also a serious contender. It just depends on whether you intend to go *really* off-road, or just "a little" off-road.
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