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Old 04-20-2019, 08:20 AM   #16
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Daniel! The key to a very positive relationship is to begin with the “worse” and work on the “better” lol.
I see a solid bond in the making here.
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Here are some pics of the carnage. Could be worse of course.









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Daniel! The key to a very positive relationship is to begin with the “worse” and work on the “better” lol.
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You always have the best relationship advice G! Thanks!


Oh yeah and the head gasket was about to blow from the looks of things!
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wow, pics of carnage are great ... in focus and close up, can really see on-line ...
the con-rod pic is simply beautiful ... there’s art for you ... just cell phone pics?

does EdCo not mess with cams? seem to recall he fixes all sorts of damage on our KLRs ...

won’t say anything about your front suspension plans ...

love your restoration threads ...
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wow, pics of carnage are great ... in focus and close up, can really see on-line ...
the con-rod pic is simply beautiful ... thereís art for you ... just cell phone pics?

does EdCo not mess with cams? seem to recall he fixes all sorts of damage on our KLRs ...

wonít say anything about your front suspension plans ...

love your restoration threads ...
Thanks J. Yeah IphoneX does ok I guess. I am not sure if edco can fix the cam or not but megacycle (who made the cam) is in San Rafael so figured I'd just take it to them. Maybe I'll just drop it all at edco.

So let me know your opinion on the forks. I can take it.
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Here is a 1980 cr 250 on cl with 1985 forks that look pretty much identical to the '87 forks I want.

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So let me know your opinion on the forks. I can take it.
the ‘76 is going to have such a better life in your garage than it would ever have with me ...

just talking personal set-up stuff ... usually like to
leave my bikes stock ... if I ever got a stock ‘70 SL350 for Baja
I might try to set it up with racing mods from 1970 but
don’t think I’d ever put later model triple clamps on ...

you’re a better wrench and rider than I’ll ever be,
so mods you’d like wouldn’t make sense for me ...
I’m always happy to just ride slower, not that I’m anywhere
near the limits of stock ‘76 suspension ...

also fun to think about your carnage pics, which look
like the sort of damage I’d expect from a high-compression
big-cam air-cooled engine ... wonder if we’d have seen
the con-rod wear or head gasket issues with a similar mileage/use stock engine ...?

the coolest thing in the world is to see a well-loved
bike being ridden ... mods don’t really matter then ...
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I agree with keeping things stock in general but since it’s already in a custom frame I’m feeling a bit liberated to do what I want. I’m not going to stick usd gixxer forks on it though.

The cr250 fork mod was common. Still torn about 78 or 87 forks. I think I can get away with the cartridge forks and still look period to those who care (me included to some degree)! Anyway thx for following along and weighing in.

Speaking of carnage my garage chaos finally got to me so I’m trying to reorganize and find a home for all the extra sprint stuff and make a space for the xl engine on the bench. Anybody need a Landrover project?
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One more pic of the wheel weights.
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So I pulled the engine out today and pressure washed the frame. Canít decide if I should figure out the suspension first or send the frame out for powder coating. I think Iíll deal with the suspension and give myself some time to figure out if I need to weld anything on the frame before it gets powder coated. Thinking about a chain guide. Also found a broken engine mount. I hope itís a stock Honda piece so I donít have to make one.



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That's some pretty serious carnage. Someone must've run it out of oil; these things are pretty indestructible.

Megacycle is the cam source for these. I think they can hardface your core; worst case, they'll have new replacements available in various grinds. FWIW, I had the middle of three grinds in mine... pulled great everywhere in the rev range. Rockers might be more of a challenge... they were unobtanium for years, and guys were welding up and refinishing the old ones. I heard a rumor a few years back that someone was manufacturing them again, but never confirmed.

I'd go with the newest forks that won't compromise the aesthetics. The Yamaha double-leading shoe drum is the hot setup; works well for a drum, relatively lightweight.

The motor mounts are C&J, not Honda OEM. They're still in business, so you might be able to score an NOS one. If not, it's a simple piece for any machine shop to replicate.
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That's some pretty serious carnage. Someone must've run it out of oil; these things are pretty indestructible.

Megacycle is the cam source for these. I think they can hardface your core; worst case, they'll have new replacements available in various grinds. FWIW, I had the middle of three grinds in mine... pulled great everywhere in the rev range. Rockers might be more of a challenge... they were unobtanium for years, and guys were welding up and refinishing the old ones. I heard a rumor a few years back that someone was manufacturing them again, but never confirmed.

I'd go with the newest forks that won't compromise the aesthetics. The Yamaha double-leading shoe drum is the hot setup; works well for a drum, relatively lightweight.

The motor mounts are C&J, not Honda OEM. They're still in business, so you might be able to score an NOS one. If not, it's a simple piece for any machine shop to replicate.
Hey OldGuy-Thanks for the good info. When I first drained the oil, the screen was full of what looked like organic debris. I cleaned it up but yeah this thing had a hard time before I got it.

The rockers dont actually look that bad considering how damaged the cam is. I'm pretty confident they can be cleaned up and used. One of the tappets is rough so I'll replace it.

I went to a local salvage yard to look for forks yesterday. They didn't have what I'm looking for but my first swap attempt will be 86-88 43mm cr125,250,500 showa cartridge forks. I think they will look normal, have the travel I want and work great. I'll wait for shocks until I have the forks figured out.

I haven't made much progress this week because work was too busy and Virginia City Grand Prix is this weekend and I've been focused on getting ready for that. Next week I'll get back on this project.

Oh and good call on asking C&J about the engine mounts. Worst case I'll make them myself.



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I was gonna offer to give you a hand with the motor mounts if needed as they appear to be a pretty simple part, but it sounds like you have the ability to DIY.

I'd go with the skinniest cartridge forks you can find, for looks. Not sure what that means though.
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