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Old 03-12-2020, 03:52 PM   #16
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I feel pretty nimble on my bicycles, at same speed more so than on my motorcycle. I can't accelerate as fast, but can huff it pretty good to the bicycle's speed, and stop faster.

Acceleration seems a little bit of false security though.

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Also, headlight modulators are not legal at nighttime.
Is there anything about full-on/off, high intensity strobe lights for bicycles? They are like lasers.
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Old 03-12-2020, 06:16 PM   #17
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Is there anything about full-on/off, high intensity strobe lights for bicycles? They are like lasers.
I'm not aware of any specific laws regarding lighting on bicycles, just reflector placement.
FWIW, 'good' lights don't simply flash, they modulate and don't use steady patterns. My fav brand in Light and Motion (in Monterey), here's an example of their flash pattern. Vis 180 tail light The headlight has the same pattern.
I only use front flash during the day so that cars are less likely to pull out in front of me, something that happens way too often (smidsy maybe?). Tail light is on brightest setting during the day and dimmest setting at night. And like I said, taking the time to check the aim before rolling out 'should' be part of your pre-ride check, but I'm sure we all know at least one careless rider,,, on either style of bike.
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Old 09-05-2020, 02:33 PM   #18
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I dont know about laws but here in Muricuh its not about whats legal or illegal, its about whatís enforced, and unless you live in a bike town like davis theres no requirements to have lights on your bicycle. Davis police definitely will write you a ticket if youre riding at night with no headlight or tail lights.

I dont know whos beaconed by a fun noodle or a light to commit vehicular manslaughter, but if you are please pm me with your name, address, social security number etc.

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Old 09-05-2020, 02:39 PM   #19
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I feel pretty nimble on my bicycles, at same speed more so than on my motorcycle. I can't accelerate as fast, but can huff it pretty good to the bicycle's speed, and stop faster.
Do you have discs on your bicycle? not sure ive ever felt like i could out brake a motorcycle on a bicycle with two pieces of rubber rubbing against a wheel that i pulled together with a metal wire. my bicycle may be light but Im still a buck eighty with two quarter-sized contact patches for grip. For me, the saving grace of a bicycle in any NDE is just how easy it is to change directions. So as long as im not boxed in by cars i can swerve out of the way of anything ahead of me, which is why 3 feet passing should be treated as a minimum. If vehicles can pass with more space, that would be just swell.

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Old 09-05-2020, 06:10 PM   #20
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I’ve never heard of a motorcyclist complain about being too visible on this forum. I don’t c how it’d be any different for a bicyclist.
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Iíve never heard of a motorcyclist complain about being too visible on this forum. I donít c how itíd be any different for a bicyclist.
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Old 09-07-2020, 04:27 PM   #22
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Iíve never heard of a motorcyclist complain about being too visible on this forum. I donít c how itíd be any different for a bicyclist.
Yes more visible and conspicuous. I try to run a more subdued running light on my bicycle. And a clothing/helmet/shoes kit that has something bright and contrasting

As a long time cyclist, motorcyclist and cage driver I look and hope for responsible and respectful riding to share the road.
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(As for those of you complaining about the strobing headlight on bicycles, I take it none of you has or is in favor of Moto headlight modulators, right?)
I haven't complained yet but no, I don't like motorcycle headlight modulators either. On the bike strobe, besides it being annoying, it makes it harder to judge the bike's distance, speed and exact location. Not sure how it nets out safety-wise but it seems like whatever one gains in having people notice them, they may lose in these other respects.
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I haven't complained yet but no, I don't like motorcycle headlight modulators either. On the bike strobe, besides it being annoying, it makes it harder to judge the bike's distance, speed and exact location. Not sure how it nets out safety-wise but it seems like whatever one gains in having people notice them, they may lose in these other respects.
I find strobe-like bicycle lights can make it more challenging to accurately determine the speed of the bicyclist. I don't have that problem with modulated headlights on motorcycles though. I suspect that is due to the differences in the frequency of the flash rate.

I suspect that bicycle flash rate is unregulated, but I don't know for sure.
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Old 09-14-2020, 01:10 PM   #25
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Well, I had to do some research here.

The average car/moto headlight is 700 lumens, the taillight is 100 (which a car would have at least 2, probably 4).

On all my bicycles, I use a 7lm rear light, which I thought was enough lights, but to my surprise, there are several 100-250lm rear lights. I also have a Cycliq rear camera which also puts out 100lm.

There are no regulations about rear light brightness or patterns: the only regulation is many areas require cyclists to have lights at night but no specifications.

The goal for rear lights is simply to be noticed by drivers. I'm not personally worried about if they can gauge my speed, despite sharing the road vs being in a separate bike lane. I don't think the speeds of casual riders, 10-12mph, vs my commute speed, 16-20mph, makes much of a difference to drivers.
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Old 09-14-2020, 01:11 PM   #26
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PS one of my riding friends believes blinkies attract drunk drivers, so he recommends steady rear lights.
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