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Old 01-11-2019, 07:38 AM   #31
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You can ride in school parking lots
Yes and no.

Yes, if I were a newer rider I’d ride in any open / clear parking lot until the owners asked me to leave.

Public School parking lots aren’t ‘public’ in the sense that people can do anything they want in them.
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Old 01-14-2019, 01:44 PM   #32
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If the cops get called on you for riding in the parking lot on a street-legal bike, and you have a license, with insurance, and you're not hooning, doing wheelies, revbombing, or any other behaviors that really annoy people, I'll bet any amount that you're not getting a ticket. You might spend some time talking to the cops and them checking your documents, they might say "pack it in for the night" or "go somewhere else" or "people are complaining and we don't want that".

I think mostly they'll check your docs and say they had calls and then give zero fucks. You're not a threat to public safety.
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Old 01-16-2019, 09:05 AM   #33
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Some folks grip the tank with their knees.

My style is weight on the pegs and a firm grip on the bars, but otherwise I let the bike move around a bit, with my ass lightly on the seat.

This is in the twisties. No comment in slabbing. I suppose if I had to ride in traffic much weight would on the pegs as I maintain vigilance.

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Old 01-16-2019, 11:24 AM   #34
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If the cops get called on you for riding in the parking lot on a street-legal bike, and you have a license, with insurance, and you're not hooning, doing wheelies, revbombing, or any other behaviors that really annoy people, I'll bet any amount that you're not getting a ticket. You might spend some time talking to the cops and them checking your documents, they might say "pack it in for the night" or "go somewhere else" or "people are complaining and we don't want that".

I think mostly they'll check your docs and say they had calls and then give zero fucks. You're not a threat to public safety.
This. Be pleasant and non confrontational, have all you docs accessible and in order and you'll be asked to move on. Sorry, no problem, I'll be leaving now. Have nice day.
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Old 03-26-2019, 03:12 AM   #35
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Riding loose is to have upper body free and relaxed but lower a tad stiffer or stronger. You need your knees to be active and strong to be able being relaxed with upper body.

You have to countersteer to steer and to countersteer properly, your hands need to be relaxed, counter steering is a matter of delegates, not power.

You could easily steer your bike with your fingers, the "counter" pressure needed isn't much at least at low to middle speed (high speed over 120mph)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljywO-B_yew

Here is a very informative rider with Youtube channel in your area.

His advice are: Chill - Boop - Roll

Chill your upper body. Boop is to countersteer. Roll is to gently give gas when exit turn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnPgmSYlrwU
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Old 03-26-2019, 08:15 AM   #36
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Rawhyde Adventure had a little seminar at SJ BMW and they mentioned that you want to be tense on the motorcycle because if you hit a bump or something you are more likely to loose control of the bike because you will jerk the bike where your body is moving.
There has already been a lot of good advice on the thread but you raise a good point above: Some riders are tight on the bars because they feel the front end wiggling around and at some level are trying to "control" that.

It helps to realize that on a single track vehicle, the steering is part of the suspension. The suspension's job is to keep the tire in contact with the road. When the front wheel of the bike wiggles back and forth a little bit, it is doing exactly that. If the rider gets tight on the bars, they are interfering with the bike's ability to maintain best contact with the road.

Knowing that is a normal phenomenon can be enough to convince a rider to relax.
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Old 03-26-2019, 02:06 PM   #37
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To go right push on the right bar, to go left push the on left bar. This called counter steering and you learned how to do it when you learned how to ride a bicycle. Use your front brake mainly and use the rear brake lightly. Look where want to go, not where you are going. Always look far ahead and when in traffic behind a car, ride to one side of then lane or the other so you look around the car and see whats going on up ahead. Take your advice from riders who have been riding a long time, the older/wiser the better.

You will crash eventually so get geared up. And remember this, there two kinds of motorcycle riders. Those who have crashed and those that are going to.

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Old 03-29-2019, 03:52 PM   #38
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thats a good point. I accidentally did a sighting lap on track without earplugs. holy fuck it was loud and felt really fast. it was also impossible to concentrate with that extra sensory input.
I did one with open unfiltered flat slides on an SV650 and my eardrums rang the rest of the day.
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Old 03-29-2019, 05:31 PM   #39
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Try to work on your core for riding. I grip the tank (not tightly) with my knees and keep a fairly loose grip on the bars.

As many have said, practice in a parking lot is a good thing. What I woul do is practice stopping from different speeds. Start out slow (stop from 10mph or 20mph) then gradually work up to faster speeds. No need to try to panic stop from those speeds. Get used to the natural dive of braking.

Also, and you'll hear differing opinions on this, I recommend using both brakes when stopping. most of your braking power will be concentrated in the front. When you grab a handful of brake, quickly, you'll dive faster. Concentrate on smooth, for the street. I'm not saying to not practice panic stops, just build up to them. You'll be able to feel, eventually, when your tire starts to lock up. That's different with each bike, so this is something even experienced riders do when they get on a different bike, so it's good practice to carry on in your riding career.

If your bike has ABS, you can grab the brake harder, without worrying about locking the front (in a straight line. Leaned over is different)

One of the best things about motorcycles is that the same physics apply to both a small and a big bike. The speed at which things occur is different, but what you learn on a 100cc bike will apply to a literbike. The point is you can learn a lot from a small bike, and do it at more managable speeds.

Also, and this is very, very important, look where you want to go. This is simple advice, but SOOO many people don't do it. What I mean by this is where you want to end up. If you go into a corner, don't look at the curb, or the houses, or the armco, look where you plan on exiting the turn.

If you have trouble with moving forward under braking, and need help gripping the tank, some skateboard grip tape or Stompgrip works wonders.

Good luck, ride safe
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Old 03-29-2019, 05:35 PM   #40
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One other thing, and this is personal opinion, don't rush to move up in engine size. I've ridden some scary fast race bikes and have ridden for over 30 years, and I always wind up on a smaller bike because it forces you to hone your riding skills and not just whack open a throttle.

That's just my opinion, others will differ.
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:27 PM   #41
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Thanks and update

MAN Thanks for the advice... I'll do a little update. My riding got a lot better since this post thanks to the advice.. I still never got to my goal of being able to ride to my college but i'm differently closer. Braking smoothly was a problem for me I learn it was my use of throttle I wasn't rolling of correctly and clutching incorrectly I was using the brake well tho. Fear is still something that affects how good I ride. Being in a lot without a ton of metal boxes around me I noticed my riding overall is better. Uhh I still suck at shifting I kinda want to play with the little adjusters on my clutch but idk if thats a good idea. I haven't rode in a bit because I also need to install my new blinkers I just got and clean and lube my chains. I practice really early in the morning about 6am or 5am at the farmers market on weekdays really good place to practice btw... Thanks everyone
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When I find myself getting tense on a ride, I do silly shit like sing out loud into my helmet. Like a really cheesy rock ballad It's hard to be too tense when you're making yourself laugh. Another thing I do is every time I see a "DO NOT PASS" sign, in my best Gandalf voice I yell "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!"

Boom...total tension reset
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Old 06-12-2019, 04:09 PM   #43
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When I find myself getting tense on a ride, I do silly shit like sing out loud into my helmet. Like a really cheesy rock ballad It's hard to be too tense when you're making yourself laugh. Another thing I do is every time I see a "DO NOT PASS" sign, in my best Gandalf voice I yell "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!"

Boom...total tension reset
Im trying this thanks that's a great idea... I listen to music but find myself ignoring it because of how nervous I am. I going to just scream it for now on. I'll update when I notice a shift in fear. again thanks never heard this advice..
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If you're learning, I suggest NOT listening to ANYTHING on headphones until you're really comfortable with your riding. It will distract you a lot. You need all your attention on riding right now. I have fairly experienced friends that have made some major mistakes due to listening to music. Some people can do both. Some can't.

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Old 06-13-2019, 06:56 AM   #45
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+1 on not listening to music as you learn.

I still don't actually. I have tried it and it was OK, but I focus better on what I need to when I can hear the bike, the wind and not have a cool tune influence how I ride.
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