America's Cup 2021 - BARF

DataDan · 11-29-2020, 08:41 PM

YouTube oddly predicted that I would like America's Cup videos and presented a few to me today. I was like "huh?" since I don't think I've ever watched a sailing video. But I am in awe of these new Cup boats.

Spec'd by current Cup holder New Zealand, they are 75ft long monohulls with retractable hydrofoil thingies on each side and a deep rudder with a hydrofoil on the end. Top speed is expect to be over 50 knots or 60mph

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Well produced video of the British boat on the water:

youtu.be/w5a1pv1Ym0k

Lots of technical detail on design features:

youtu.be/VQUl_hf6yo8

Analysis of the competitors:

youtu.be/xpys4jTkfUY

**budman** · 11-29-2020, 08:47 PM

What a trip.
They can turn quickly and look so odd when “flying”.

**Butch** · 11-29-2020, 09:23 PM

Cool stuff.

kpke · 11-30-2020, 07:09 AM

That's really cool stuff. I know nothing of sailing but, those things seam really fast. Sail boats have the right of way on the water right? Don't get in their fkn way. Jeez. I was wondering what those wings on the side were for. Like sand rail steering brakes.

Except for the music in the first video

, those videos were fun and interesting.

Thanks for posting it.

Maddevill · 11-30-2020, 08:41 AM

I used to sail. Watched the Aussie 18s when they came to SF. The technology of sailboats has come quantum leaps forward in recent years. Awesome

Mad

Johndicezx9 · 11-30-2020, 08:53 AM

These are cool, but I miss the elegance of the 12 Meter boats....

SFMCjohn · 11-30-2020, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johndicezx9

These are cool, but I miss the elegance of the 12 Meter boats....

+1 ...

speaking of elegant, been having fun watching the AC teams learning to sail their new AC75s:

youtu.be/GepoP_VAG50

CDONA · 11-30-2020, 11:32 AM

So easy to fall off the foils in fluky wind, this will make raceable wind (high minimum wind speed) hard to produce for tv viewers.

Equipment failures, brain farts, will see some spectacular results.

Ragged edge racing, , ,

Johndicezx9 · 11-30-2020, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFMCjohn

+1 ...

I remember being more bummed about Dennis Conner losing the Cup than the KAL shoot down by the Soviets.

SFMCjohn · 11-30-2020, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johndicezx9

I remember being more bummed about Dennis Conner losing the Cup than the KAL shoot down by the Soviets.

those were the days ...

the AC racing sailboats that ultimately lead us to AC75s ...

gee, remember the seemingly endless lawsuits back then ...?

SFMCjohn · 12-08-2020, 08:57 AM

youtu.be/5Sh8L-Ci7aY

Team NZ kick off first official America's Cup practice, instantly face off with Americans

official practice began today in Auckland, NZ ...
reading the Christmas Cup races will begin 12/17/20 ...

SFMCjohn · 12-18-2020, 12:07 AM

good first day of racing for the NYYC:

youtu.be/WdctjN-rS7M

PATRIOT goes 2-0 on opening day of ACWS Auckland
by NYYC American Magic. Dec 17, 2020

Quote:

New York Yacht Club American Magic’s AC75 PATRIOT, the U.S. Challenger for the 36th America's Cup, won both of its races on the opening day of the Prada America's Cup World Series Auckland.

The four races held today were the first official contests for the AC75 class yachts.

Thursday also marked the return of a New York Yacht Club-affiliated yacht to an America's Cup racecourse after a 18-year absence.

berth · 12-18-2020, 07:43 AM

Beautiful boats. Look fast.

How does this series work? So is the entirety of the "America Cup" going to done there in Auckland, do they go to other places? Is it a single series of events, or a campaign over several venues?

I had visions of sailors crawling around, yanking on ropes, cranking sails up and down and whatever. These guys seem fairly stuck in their areas. Is it all being done with motors and what not today? Mind, I don't know anything about the mechanics of sailing.

SFMCjohn · 12-18-2020, 09:40 AM

think all the match racing (between two boats) takes place in Auckland, the America's Cup World Series between 17 - 20 Dec 2020 followed by the PRADA Cup from 15 Jan - 22 Feb 2021 and the 36th America's Cup Match from 6-21 March.

think you can say it’s a series of races, all held in Auckland, on Waitemata Harbour, over the next couple months, to see who gets to go up against the “defender”, Emirates Team New Zealand, for the Auld Mug in March.

reading the AC75s are a new design, and so all the teams are still learning to handle the boats. I wasn’t sure about them, but have to say they’re growing on me ... think the foils are lifted by hydrolic power, and the stuck guys are working hand power winches to control the sails ...

five min NBC coverage from yesterday:

youtu.be/zSt1Dj9tPRc

be super exciting if the New York Yatch Club makes its way through to be able to race in March ...

Maddevill · 12-19-2020, 11:07 AM

Yeah, you can see the guys cranking the coffee grinders to trim the sails. I assume the foils are powered.
It's exhausting work on the upper body.

Mad

11-29-2020, 08:41 PM	#1
DataDan Mama says he's bona fide BARF Mod Alumni BARFie winner 2010 & 2014 Contributor ++++ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Luis Obispo Motorcycles: Yamaha FJR1300 Name: Dan	America's Cup 2021 YouTube oddly predicted that I would like America's Cup videos and presented a few to me today. I was like "huh?" since I don't think I've ever watched a sailing video. But I am in awe of these new Cup boats. Spec'd by current Cup holder New Zealand, they are 75ft long monohulls with retractable hydrofoil thingies on each side and a deep rudder with a hydrofoil on the end. Top speed is expect to be over 50 knots or 60mph . Well produced video of the British boat on the water: youtu.be/w5a1pv1Ym0k Lots of technical detail on design features: youtu.be/VQUl_hf6yo8 Analysis of the competitors: youtu.be/xpys4jTkfUY __________________ How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four. --Winston Smith I see four lights! --Jean Luc Picard A is A. --John Galt

11-29-2020, 08:47 PM	#2
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Maddevill KNGKAW AMA #: 542337 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hayward Motorcycles: ZX14,GS750E, KTM 450/540 Name: Steve	I used to sail. Watched the Aussie 18s when they came to SF. The technology of sailboats has come quantum leaps forward in recent years. Awesome Mad __________________ If your nose runs and your feet smell, you're built upside down.

11-30-2020, 08:53 AM	#6
Johndicezx9 Rolls with it... Contributor +++ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monterey Pen Motorcycles: :o) Name: John	These are cool, but I miss the elegance of the 12 Meter boats.... __________________ "I used to be 'with it', but then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it', and what's 'it' seems weird and scary. It'll happen to you!"

11-30-2020, 07:09 AM	#4
kpke Veteran Contributor + Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Livermore Motorcycles: many 2 strokes 06 R1 LE 158 Name: Ken	That's really cool stuff. I know nothing of sailing but, those things seam really fast. Sail boats have the right of way on the water right? Don't get in their fkn way. Jeez. I was wondering what those wings on the side were for. Like sand rail steering brakes. Except for the music in the first video , those videos were fun and interesting. Thanks for posting it.

11-30-2020, 11:32 AM	#8
CDONA Home of Vortex tuning Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Based in Spearfish SD. rolled over there > Motorcycles: Triumph scrambler, TW200, Monkey Name: # 44659	So easy to fall off the foils in fluky wind, this will make raceable wind (high minimum wind speed) hard to produce for tv viewers. Equipment failures, brain farts, will see some spectacular results. Ragged edge racing, , , __________________ "Chip Tank" in Hope Az. All I want for Xmas is my two vaccines Started hammerin' Honda 90's around Berryessa, Summer of Love '67

12-08-2020, 08:57 AM	#11
SFMCjohn 13 AMA #2917550 BARF Moderator: Vintage Cafe & Adventure Riding Barfie Winner 2017 Contributor +++++ ++++ 1% Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: San Francisco, 94102 Motorcycles: KLR, K75s, TR7V, FXSB Name: John A.	youtu.be/5Sh8L-Ci7aY Team NZ kick off first official America's Cup practice, instantly face off with Americans official practice began today in Auckland, NZ ... reading the Christmas Cup races will begin 12/17/20 ... __________________ BARF Terms of Service San Francisco Motorcycle Club IBA#4200 - Let's Ride!: BARF Ride Reports Index Last edited by SFMCjohn; 12-08-2020 at 09:00 AM..

12-18-2020, 07:43 AM	#13
berth Veteran Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Orange County Motorcycles: KRS-1200 Name:	Beautiful boats. Look fast. How does this series work? So is the entirety of the "America Cup" going to done there in Auckland, do they go to other places? Is it a single series of events, or a campaign over several venues? I had visions of sailors crawling around, yanking on ropes, cranking sails up and down and whatever. These guys seem fairly stuck in their areas. Is it all being done with motors and what not today? Mind, I don't know anything about the mechanics of sailing. __________________ #69 #45 NP

12-18-2020, 09:40 AM	#14
SFMCjohn 13 AMA #2917550 BARF Moderator: Vintage Cafe & Adventure Riding Barfie Winner 2017 Contributor +++++ ++++ 1% Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: San Francisco, 94102 Motorcycles: KLR, K75s, TR7V, FXSB Name: John A.	think all the match racing (between two boats) takes place in Auckland, the America's Cup World Series between 17 - 20 Dec 2020 followed by the PRADA Cup from 15 Jan - 22 Feb 2021 and the 36th America's Cup Match from 6-21 March. think you can say it’s a series of races, all held in Auckland, on Waitemata Harbour, over the next couple months, to see who gets to go up against the “defender”, Emirates Team New Zealand, for the Auld Mug in March. reading the AC75s are a new design, and so all the teams are still learning to handle the boats. I wasn’t sure about them, but have to say they’re growing on me ... think the foils are lifted by hydrolic power, and the stuck guys are working hand power winches to control the sails ... five min NBC coverage from yesterday: youtu.be/zSt1Dj9tPRc be super exciting if the New York Yatch Club makes its way through to be able to race in March ... __________________ BARF Terms of Service San Francisco Motorcycle Club IBA#4200 - Let's Ride!: BARF Ride Reports Index

12-19-2020, 11:07 AM	#15
Maddevill KNGKAW AMA #: 542337 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hayward Motorcycles: ZX14,GS750E, KTM 450/540 Name: Steve	Yeah, you can see the guys cranking the coffee grinders to trim the sails. I assume the foils are powered. It's exhausting work on the upper body. Mad __________________ If your nose runs and your feet smell, you're built upside down.

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