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Old 12-14-2017, 11:08 AM   #1
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THill Crash T5a

Newguy...day 6 ever. 2013 Daytona 675 - B rider, Turn 5a Thill east. 4th session, minute 18, Q3's with 3 full days on them. 85 degree ambient. Tire pressures per spec.
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:00 PM   #2
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u have this bad habit of adding throttle before subtracting lean angle. in a few of those turns, u actually added lean angle after the apex while rolling on the gas. generally, thats just bad form and it bites as u found out.

T5a is even more tricky in this respect. its downhill. so even if u are hold constant throttle, u are picking up speed. u can hear your rpms rise and you can see u adding more lean angle. u wanted more and more grip until there was none left.
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Old 12-14-2017, 01:32 PM   #3
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Early application of throttle is a remnant of racing my Radical PR6, where loss of momentum is undesirable and traction is much higher. I can see I have much work to do in breaking this ingrained habit. Thanks all for your input!
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Old 12-15-2017, 02:52 PM   #4
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By tire pressure "pre spec" do you mean what the tire vendor recommended for the tires you are running, or what is your definition of "spec" here?

Robert nailed the biggest issue that's going to bite you again, but additionally, where you crashed, you hit it hard and fast while asking the bike to keep on the same line (essentially adding lean).

Easy on the throttle application - think of it as 1, 2, 3% increments, not 20 -100.
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Yeah to Robert and Honeybadger. Throttle control and waiting to start to pick the bike up before applying throttle.

Then stay out of the outside of T5a, it's full of bubble gum, cold, has no rubber down, and the camber turns negative there. Watch a few race videos, nobody goes out there willingly. Maybe for a pass, but it's slick as monkey shit on a rainy day.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:18 PM   #6
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Difficult to determine. I'd say too much lean angle from to much speed. To be funny and serious I'd need to look at your butt from the rider behind you. My last crash was a rare dual wheel slide-out, I could only determine what happened by looking at the scratches on the fairing. Too much lean from too much speed - on my part.
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