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Old 12-04-2014, 12:46 AM   #16
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From reading the bill, I think the Assemblyman is looking out for us motorcyclist.
Why? What makes you think he is looking out for us? How so?

You can be ticketed now for breaking any of those guidelines, it is at the officers discretion. So why add more letter to the law? It can only be used against us later.
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Old 12-04-2014, 05:28 AM   #17
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Or, just shift the speed limit prohibition down to 5mph once they have a law in place. That is the concern.
Exactly we have seen this tactic many times before. Once they get their foot in the door their will keep pushing. Need to stomp on the foot.
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Old 12-04-2014, 06:23 AM   #18
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I don't get it. From everything in this thread, the bill seems perfectly reasonable and make things clear for everyone, just like the CHP guideline said. Lane splitting on a single lane road doesn't seem safe anyway, you're riding the emergency lane. And if traffic is going 35mph and you're allowed to go 10+ that, which is 45mph, then that's pretty good. Any faster there's no reason to lane split.

From reading the bill, I think the Assemblyman is looking out for us motorcyclist. If you don't like laws for the sake of not liking laws, that's an entirely different discussion. This seems like perfectly good law and I would support this.
Perhaps you'd be more comfortable in a prius than one of those dangerous motorcycles.
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Old 12-04-2014, 07:28 AM   #19
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I don't get it. From everything in this thread, the bill seems perfectly reasonable and make things clear for everyone, just like the CHP guideline said. Lane splitting on a single lane road doesn't seem safe anyway, you're riding the emergency lane. And if traffic is going 35mph and you're allowed to go 10+ that, which is 45mph, then that's pretty good. Any faster there's no reason to lane split.

From reading the bill, I think the Assemblyman is looking out for us motorcyclist. If you don't like laws for the sake of not liking laws, that's an entirely different discussion. This seems like perfectly good law and I would support this.
Now we have two in agreement with the proposed law.

It wouldn't change a single thing about the way that I ride. I was already following the CHP guidelines when they came out.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:01 AM   #20
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There's no reason California needs another law.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:11 AM   #21
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Now we have two in agreement with the proposed law.

It wouldn't change a single thing about the way that I ride. I was already following the CHP guidelines when they came out.
Scary logic, since it basically says you're fine legislating your life choices/opinions on others.

Cops already have discretion to issue tickets for reckless driving. While I agree with the CHP guidelines in 90% of circumstances, I don't see the benefit of turning them into law.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:25 AM   #22
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There is no need for this law from a motorcyclists point of view. Just because you agree with it, doesn't mean it should be come law. Laws denote CRIMES, they are not for designating how you must live your life. Terrible thought process.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:37 AM   #23
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Scary logic, since it basically says you're fine legislating your life choices/opinions on others.
I didn't say it should become a law - so I don't know what "logic" you're referring to. I'm just saying that if it were to become law, it wouldn't change anything for me, personally.
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Cops already have discretion to issue tickets for reckless driving. While I agree with the CHP guidelines in 90% of circumstances, I don't see the benefit of turning them into law.
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Old 12-04-2014, 09:07 AM   #26
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There's no reason California needs another law.
Agree wholeheartedly, but also recognize that this will never happen. There will always be new laws being written, by leaders on both sides of the aisle. I have no problem with this one at all.
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Just sent Quirk an email asking him to explain the reasoning for the bill. Didn't indicate if I support or oppose it. Will post up if/when there is a reply.
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Old 12-04-2014, 09:21 AM   #28
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This seems like perfectly good law and I would support this.
This seems like a guaranteed way to increase ticket revenues and line insurance company pockets.

In my experience, especially on the stretch of 580 along Oakland, heavy traffic moving 35mph-60mph is where I feel the most vulnerable. Having law prohibit me from riding the lines and passing between cars strips me of my (opinion alert) only safety advantage.

This politician is ignorant, although well intended, and needs to GTFO my dangerous deadly concrete lawn. Rabble rabble rabble.
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Old 12-04-2014, 09:21 AM   #29
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There's no reason California needs another law.
This as well.

All you residents in the area you have the most power with Quirk at the moment. Get on the phone or email and tell him the CHP and Police already have it handled and we do not need another law, but thank you for trying to keep us safe.

We are grown ups and choose to do it ourselves.
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I don't get it. From everything in this thread, the bill seems perfectly reasonable and make things clear for everyone, just like the CHP guideline said. Lane splitting on a single lane road doesn't seem safe anyway, you're riding the emergency lane. And if traffic is going 35mph and you're allowed to go 10+ that, which is 45mph, then that's pretty good. Any faster there's no reason to lane split.

From reading the bill, I think the Assemblyman is looking out for us motorcyclist. If you don't like laws for the sake of not liking laws, that's an entirely different discussion. This seems like perfectly good law and I would support this.
No, he is not looking out for us. First it starts with this law then someone will come along and add more regulations, etc. It is the reason why the NRA opposes all regulations so vehemently.
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