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Old 01-13-2019, 05:10 PM   #1
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What's the modern day equivlent for the F4i?

I haven't kept up with the street scene much for the last 10 years. I'm ready to get back in and always loved the CBR600F4i I had. I loved having full fairings, I-4 motor, great power but still street oriented compared to the rest. I want something I can take the Mrs. on for an occasional 2-3 hour ride, but I'm a big dude (210lb) myself so I need something with decent suspension.
Was looking at the 2019 CBR650R...seems alright except the weight, but I guess ABS is standard.
What other bikes should I be looking at? Definitely prefer Japanese. Prefer fairings but not a deal breaker...heard a lot of great things about the fz07- but weak suspension?
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Old 01-13-2019, 05:21 PM   #2
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CBR600RR???
Improvement from the F4i but not by much.
What About a VFR800
Or heck them goldwangs been a bit popular lately?
I'm thinking of what might be pillion friendly.
unless you are thinking newer ish
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Old 01-13-2019, 05:44 PM   #3
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for 2 up I don't think any sprotbiles will do that well

maybe an FJ09?
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Old 01-13-2019, 05:49 PM   #4
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Ninja 650R, a good low mileage unicorn F4i, Ducati Supersport, honestly the best street sport bikes are twins...maybe an Aprilia?
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Old 01-13-2019, 06:09 PM   #5
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The new CBR650R is absolutely the modern version of the old F4i (a great bike back in the day).

But subjecting the missus to a 2-3 hour ride on the back of that? That seat doesn’t look nearly as comfortable as the old one piece that the F4i had.
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Old 01-13-2019, 06:34 PM   #6
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CBR600RR???
Improvement from the F4i but not by much.
What About a VFR800
Or heck them goldwangs been a bit popular lately?
I'm thinking of what might be pillion friendly.
unless you are thinking newer ish
Nope.
To tall and long for shorter people.
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Old 01-13-2019, 06:36 PM   #7
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I'd say VFR or Ducati Supersport, but neither of those are I-4. Neither is the FZ07, and though you can upgrade the suspension and even put fairings on one of those, you're not going to turn it into a 4-cyl.

There are a lot more options of you bump to a higher displacement - FZ10, GSX-S1000...
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Old 01-13-2019, 07:24 PM   #8
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I just sold my F4i after ~8 years of ownership. Loved the bike, did everything from the occasional trackday to multiday touring trips. I finally got rid of it after doing a final 3,000+ mile tour this summer and bought a FZ1 yesterday. I've only put like 100 miles on it but so far it feels like a logical progression with wanting something more powerful and also more relaxed as I ease into old man status... not quite as massive as a VFR but not a race rep. I'll try it out on the track this spring and a tour to Montana this summer and see how it stacks up.
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Old 01-13-2019, 08:11 PM   #9
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My 09 Street Triple with the small aftermarket Dart fairing is everything my F4i was and more. More comfortable and more capable.

Priced reasonable new or used and reliable.

One of the newer 765 triples would blow the old F4i off the track or mtn road all the while being more comfortable for around town. Worth consideration and a test ride.
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Old 01-13-2019, 08:18 PM   #10
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Maybe an MT09 (formerly called the FZ09) or the FJ09 if you want to be more comfortable 2-up? Fast and good all around bikes.
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I was checking out the FJ09 at a dealer. It looked like the perfect bike for two up riding without being landcruiser size.
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What about that new CB650 like rob suggested. Not a full on sprotbile, but has a fairing and decent ergos.

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Old 01-14-2019, 06:05 AM   #13
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First, very few bikes will have the right suspension setup for you from the get go.

The Tracer 900 and the FJ09 are not the same bike, especially the GT version.

There are several differences between them.

The Tracer GT has fully adjustable front forks...the FJ 09 does not, but can be added.

The Tracer GT has a shock remote preload adjuster, the FJ09 does not. Ohlins just came out with a shock for the GT that has remote preload ......it ain’t cheap though.

The Tracer GT has more passenger seat and leg room then the FJ09.

The Tracer GT has cruise control, the FJ09 does not, but a after market one can be added. Cruise control is so cool.......

The Tracer Gt has quick shifter, the FJ09 does not, but can be added.

The Tracer GT comes with heated grips, the FJ09 does not, but can be added

The Tracer GT comes with matching hard bags, the FJ09 does not, but can be added.

The Tracer GT comes with a longer swing arm, the FJ09 does not, and can not be added easily.....this is important when it comes to two up riding.

The bars on the Tracer GT are narrower and smaller in diameter than the FJ09.

The point is....the Tracer 900 gt is not a FJ09.

Oh.......never a false neutral.........
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:44 AM   #14
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I'm not sure if you want new or used and what size motor you prefer but the newer Ninja 1000 is very comfortable. Has bags available too. For used, I used to have a 2001 Ninja 900 and thought it was very comfy even 2 up. Rode to San Diego with the wife on the back on that.

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First, very few bikes will have the right suspension setup for you from the get go.

The Tracer 900 and the FJ09 are not the same bike, especially the GT version.

There are several differences between them.

The Tracer GT has fully adjustable front forks...the FJ 09 does not, but can be added.

The Tracer GT has a shock remote preload adjuster, the FJ09 does not. Ohlins just came out with a shock for the GT that has remote preload ......it ain’t cheap though.

The Tracer GT has more passenger seat and leg room then the FJ09.

The Tracer GT has cruise control, the FJ09 does not, but a after market one can be added. Cruise control is so cool.......

The Tracer Gt has quick shifter, the FJ09 does not, but can be added.

The Tracer GT comes with heated grips, the FJ09 does not, but can be added

The Tracer GT comes with matching hard bags, the FJ09 does not, but can be added.

The Tracer GT comes with a longer swing arm, the FJ09 does not, and can not be added easily.....this is important when it comes to two up riding.

The bars on the Tracer GT are narrower and smaller in diameter than the FJ09.

The point is....the Tracer 900 gt is not a FJ09.

Oh.......never a false neutral.........
I'd say that the Tracer 900 is an updated FJ09.

Can the swingarm not be swapped over? I understand it isn't cheap, but that doesn't mean it can't be swapped. The suspension link is the same (for FZ09, FJ09, Tracer 900, Tracer 900GT)

The bars are different diameter? I'm awfully skeptical of either having bars other than 7/8".

It's the same basic bike, with some upgrades.
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