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Old 02-13-2015, 04:41 PM   #61
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Not everyone experiences the same -- often painful -- lessons at the same point in their lives. People will do what they want to do, and the reality is nobody can save everybody from themselves.


Stop being redundant - the brace and vest serve the same purpose.
You got my point though. Nobody considers that ATGATT. Hi viz? Neck brace or airbag?. Any other tech that comes along?

At some point everyone needs to deal with the fact that riding a moto is unsafe. It always will be. That is no excuse to be an idiot, but the fact remains we all are in some capacity for riding at all.
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Old 02-13-2015, 04:42 PM   #62
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How about wear what you want and worry about yourself?
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Old 02-13-2015, 04:46 PM   #63
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This is the precise reason I bought a 'stich. It's too easy to wear just a jacket.

Gloves, helmet, boots, these should be obvious. With a 'stich you can only have the best protection, and it's easy to put on so there is no excuse to not wear it.

Definitely not waiting to need skin grafts to 'realize' I need better protection. I've seen it happen to my friends and family, it comes down to cost and laziness.
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Old 02-13-2015, 04:52 PM   #64
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^ But is Aerostitch really "the best"?

IMO the armor is going to move around a lot more than it would on a track suit.
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Old 02-13-2015, 04:55 PM   #65
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But is Aerostitch really "the best"?

IMO the armor is going to move around a lot more than it would on a track suit.
Proper fit is important, but yes it could still move around more than a fitted leather suit.

I don't think a stich will protect you any more than a similar getup of quality textile or leather gear, it's mostly about the convenience of a one piece oversuit.


I mean, that's what it boils down to right? Why would anyone NOT wear all the gear? It's not convenient. It's too hot, takes too long to put on, its uncomfortable. There is also cost, but even the BEST gear is a lot cheaper than even the most basic medical bills.
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:01 PM   #66
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Proper fit is important, but yes it could still move around more than a fitted leather suit.

I don't think a stich will protect you any more than a similar getup of quality textile or leather gear, it's mostly about the convenience of a one piece oversuit.


I mean, that's what it boils down to right? Why would anyone NOT wear all the gear? It's not convenient. It's too hot, takes too long to put on, its uncomfortable. There is also cost, but even the BEST gear is a lot cheaper than even the most basic medical bills.
You are making the point that all of us make compromises to safety for convenience. Is the stitch the best out there? What color is it? You have a neck brace or an airbag?

Why not just drive a car? It is a hell of a lot safer...Said the driver to the motorcyclist...

OK I'm repeating myself.

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How about wear what you want and worry about yourself?
Then we'd have nothing to argue about?
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:09 PM   #67
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Then we'd have nothing to argue about?
Who's arguing? There's no antagonism here. We're just talking personal experience and opinions about shit no one else but us is concerned about.
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:11 PM   #68
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Who's arguing? There's no antagonism here. We're just talking personal experience and opinions about shit no one else but us is concerned about.
Please say hello in the noob forum.
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:12 PM   #69
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I honor of this thread, my riding pants are going in the top case and I'm riding home in jeans.
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Old 02-13-2015, 06:02 PM   #71
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AGATT for me. I wear a Stitch', Helimot gloves, Daytonas, and a Helimot back protector every ride, every time and leathers for going fast. Why not?
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Old 02-13-2015, 06:05 PM   #72
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I don't have issues with people who ride ATGATT. I think it's a very smart thing to do. I wear everything except riding pants and boots, so clearly that's not ATGATT. But does that make me less of a rider? Does it make me a squid? Does my choice of convenience over protection make me lesser of a rider?

This is my point, it seems that if you don't wear $1500 over suits, that suddenly you are making a bad choice. I can understand the hate amongst the full squids (tank top, flip flops, etc..), but I don't see what the big fuss is with someone who wears 95% gear all the time.
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Old 02-13-2015, 06:05 PM   #73
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I honor of this thread, my riding pants are going in the top case and I'm riding home in jeans.
That was so inspiring, RCB... so I rode home in my air vest, helmet, and nothing else. Got pulled over 3 times by blondes in convertibles.
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Old 02-13-2015, 06:13 PM   #74
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ATGATT with an Aerostitch, gloves, and riding boots for commuting.
ATGATT with leathers and full gear when I go out for a purposeful ride on a day off.

No gear when I go the 1/4 mile or so to the store to pick something up, because I always take the car for that.

I got lucky crashing a few times on the street when I was young and not wearing the proper gear. Even with all the gear, I've been hurt pretty badly several times from crashes while racing(on and off road) so I know it could have been much worse without the gear. I figure you only get lucky so many times, so now its ATGATT.

I don't know if its true but you're supposed to learn more and be smarter about stuff as you get older. I'm hoping its true. 53 years old, 46 years riding and racing.

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Old 02-13-2015, 06:14 PM   #75
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That was so inspiring, RCB... so I rode home in my air vest, helmet, and nothing else. Got pulled over 3 times by blondes in convertibles.
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