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Old 08-24-2015, 09:14 AM   #31
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As I have said before, Andrew, I know you have visualized what you think is going to happen. Please remember that there are other members in the AFM who are fathers, brothers, sons, etc., who are dependent on their competitors in some manner, for their safety. Jumping on a 200 hp is not a lab experiment.

There are real conclusions for any mishaps. There is a reason why even at the most elite levels, MotoGP, WSBK, MotoAmerica, etc., there are tiers that competitors must go through to establish credentials for the safety of all.

I hope you truly understand this aspect as well. Travelling at 170mph is not the time to understand that your visual aspiration far exceeded your actual skill level. It would be a tragedy if you were hurt. Even more so if another was hurt as well.
This, and what Berto said.

Andrew, your perception that anyone can ride at the highest levels with enough dedication is incorrect. You may think you are going to ride top ten or better in Moto America.

Come back when you're sporting a top ten AFM plate. Then tell us about how you are going to ride at international level.
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Old 08-24-2015, 12:17 PM   #32
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Come back when you're sporting a top ten AFM plate. Then tell us about how you are going to ride at international level.
Good advice on when to go hit up the Pro ranks. The Pro ranks of yore were about the top 5 guys in the local (600/750/1000) classes hitting the stage and usually only the class champions would go out on tour (and do well). The top 5 guys would participate when the show came to town on their tracks. Pretty much, if you weren't a regular on the podium, you didn't go Pro Racing. I don't know when that changed, but change it did and things are kind of goofy now. While the grids are large-ish, the time to go Pro Racing is when you're at the top 90th percentile of your grid, IMO.

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Old 08-24-2015, 12:24 PM   #33
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Andrew, the only bike that fits the bill that will be useful in MotoAmerica is the 2015 Yamaha R1. Mach 1 has two left. Anything else, you're wasting your time.

One thing to note: you're doing it backwards. You don't need more HP, you need better entries and exits. Get a current gen R6. Get down to 50's at Thill/ 41's at Sonoma; sadly I just sold my backup that's been there. That will put you around top 10-15 in Moto America races and top 3 or so in 600's. Our top 3 600 guys would consistently finish in the box in the liter bike classes. Once you can get a 600 into those times, then move to that 1K. IMO, of course.

Or go buy that 2015 R1. It'll do most of the work for you.
Here you go Berto, or anyone else that wants a 2015 R1 for racing.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/5180813179.html

Not my bike, just thought I would pass on the info.
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Here you go Berto, or anyone else that wants a 2015 R1 for racing.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/5180813179.html

Not my bike, just thought I would pass on the info.
I like I said, despite all the technology, someone will figure out how to crash one LOL
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Old 08-24-2015, 12:31 PM   #35
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I like I said, despite all the technology, someone will figure out how to crash one LOL
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Old 08-24-2015, 02:36 PM   #36
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Not sure what Andrew is running, but suspect he will have the same experience most riders and racers do. That first 2:30 easily becomes a 2:20 and then 2:10, and then 2:05 without huge effort. That next ten seconds is far different story. The five after that is seldom done and then with lots of effort.

It's a classic dilemma, you think you're getting fast because you are, but you don't understand the nature of a J curve.
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Old 08-24-2015, 07:57 PM   #38
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Not sure what Andrew is running, but suspect he will have the same experience most riders and racers do. That first 2:30 easily becomes a 2:20 and then 2:10, and then 2:05 without huge effort. That next ten seconds is far different story. The five after that is seldom done and then with lots of effort.

It's a classic dilemma, you think you're getting fast because you are, but you don't understand the nature of a J curve.
People that never tried only see the easy linear slope until they hit 1. The dismissive attitude is a classic symptom. He is still on the inspired side. When humility shows up, then the words will sink in.
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Not sure what Andrew is running, but suspect he will have the same experience most riders and racers do. That first 2:30 easily becomes a 2:20 and then 2:10, and then 2:05 without huge effort. That next ten seconds is far different story. The five after that is seldom done and then with lots of effort.

It's a classic dilemma, you think you're getting fast because you are, but you don't understand the nature of a J curve.
...And we've all been there, I think. i don't begrudge Andrew for trying the path he's trying and everyone learns differently and progresses differently. That being said, I'd like the encourage Andrew to go "Pro" when he's able to finish on the podium in amateur races consistently in the class he plans to run Pro in.
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Here you go Berto, or anyone else that wants a 2015 R1 for racing.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/5180813179.html

Not my bike, just thought I would pass on the info.
You rule Nick! That was the best deal in some time!! Tank was dented, but that was adjusted for too. Total steal!
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You rule Nick! That was the best deal in some time!! Tank was dented, but that was adjusted for too. Total steal!
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...And we've all been there, I think. i don't begrudge Andrew for trying the path he's trying and everyone learns differently and progresses differently. That being said, I'd like the encourage Andrew to go "Pro" when he's able to finish on the podium in amateur races consistently in the class he plans to run Pro in.
Berto, I've done many 1:45 laps at thill, and 1:36s at Sears Point. I just can't duplicate them on the track, instead of visualizing them. When I visualize them I fucking know I can kick everyone's ass.
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Berto, I've done many 1:45 laps at thill, and 1:36s at Sears Point. I just can't duplicate them on the track, instead of visualizing them. When I visualize them I fucking know I can kick everyone's ass.
when you were visualizing passing Berto, did you kick him road rash style ?

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when you were visualizing passing Berto, did you kick him road rash style ?

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You rule Nick! That was the best deal in some time!! Tank was dented, but that was adjusted for too. Total steal!
So you nabbed it then?
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