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Old 01-14-2019, 08:01 AM   #16
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I'm not sure if you want new or used and what size motor you prefer but the newer Ninja 1000 is very comfortable. Has bags available too. For used, I used to have a 2001 Ninja 900 and thought it was very comfy even 2 up. Rode to San Diego with the wife on the back on that.

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^^Great call on the Ninja 1000. Based on OP's wishlist, that one would probably be right at the top.
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Old 01-14-2019, 08:09 AM   #17
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I'd say VFR or Ducati Supersport
I put almost 20,000 miles on a CBR600F4. I've ridden many of the bikes suggested in this thread and the only one that comes anywhere close to the F4 is the Ducati Supersport! The SuperSport has everything you loved about the F4 (good looks, sportiness, all-day comfort) combined with an engine that's dramatically better for street riding plus all the modern electronics you could want. It's the best "all around" motorcycle I've ridden in a long time...
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Old 01-14-2019, 08:16 AM   #18
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^^Great call on the Ninja 1000. Based on OP's wishlist, that one would probably be right at the top.
If you're looking for a direct replacement for the F4i, I'd immediately eliminate everything in the 500+ pound category: VFR800, FZ1, Ninja 1000, etc. They're nice bikes, but the extra weight is very noticeable compared to something that's 100 pounds lighter... Or, if you're willing to ride a heavier bike that opens up a bunch of additional possibilities (ex: sport ADV bikes like the S1000XR and Multistrada).
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:22 AM   #19
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The GSX-R750s are not too far off from the F4is. I've had both so speaking from 1st hand experience. This is assuming you want to have a sportbike with 4cycl, reliable, low maintenance, reasonable ergos and affordable price range.

However, it does not come with any fancy electronics like traction control. Only ride map modes..
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If you're looking for a direct replacement for the F4i, I'd immediately eliminate everything in the 500+ pound category: VFR800, FZ1, Ninja 1000, etc. They're nice bikes, but the extra weight is very noticeable compared to something that's 100 pounds lighter... Or, if you're willing to ride a heavier bike that opens up a bunch of additional possibilities (ex: sport ADV bikes like the S1000XR and Multistrada).
F4i wet weight was listed at 441. FZ-1 listed at 485.

An exhaust change and a lithium battery would put the FZ-1 pretty close in weight. They do need suspension tho... I couldn't live with the stock components that came with my 07 model.
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:43 AM   #21
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The GSX-R750s are not too far off from the F4is. I've had both so speaking from 1st hand experience. This is assuming you want to have a sportbike with 4cycl, reliable, low maintenance, reasonable ergos and affordable price range.

However, it does not come with any fancy electronics like traction control. Only ride map modes..
Gsxr and reasonable ergos do no belong in the same sentence.

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Old 01-14-2019, 12:08 PM   #22
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Gsxr and reasonable egos do no belong in the same sentence.
depends on the year, but I agree 06+ aren't great for the street
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FZ7. Or whatever it is called now. The F4i defined "sporty as fuck, comfortable and easy to ride."
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:52 PM   #24
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^^Great call on the Ninja 1000. Based on OP's wishlist, that one would probably be right at the top.
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can confirm: own 2017 ninja 1000 - it's comfortable enough to ride all day without getting tired. my girlfriend commented that being on the back of it feels like sitting in a cadillac, too.

being a liter bike tuned to the street (low & mid range rpms) it has plenty of get up and go, too.
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Old 01-14-2019, 02:08 PM   #25
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I still donít get the F4i love (other than perhaps reliability?) I rode one a few times and wasnít impressed. I vividly remember twisting the throttle to cross a street and found the acceleration was about Ĺ of what I expected. The F4i low rpm response was anemic comparing to a SV650 or a DRZ400sm. Even twisting the throttle past 10k rpm it didnít feel like there was much meat from the engine. Handling? Nope. I found the handling sharp on the í05 ZX-10R I had back then, like I expected from a sportbike, but felt the F4iís handling was unresponsive in comparison.

For an I4, Iíd get a literbike, otherwise a 650 or bigger twin would be better for street riding.
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The f4i dry weight is listed at 370, I doubt the 441 number.



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F4i wet weight was listed at 441. FZ-1 listed at 485.

An exhaust change and a lithium battery would put the FZ-1 pretty close in weight. They do need suspension tho... I couldn't live with the stock components that came with my 07 model.
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:05 PM   #28
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My F4 is smooth, light and FUN to ride. It does wake up around 8k but not impressively when compared to a Liter bike. The F4 is so effortless, like a bicycle, If on a trip out of the bay area I prefer it to my 1K bike.

If your riding with truly fast folks in the mountains, or the track, choose another bike.



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I still donít get the F4i love (other than perhaps reliability?) I rode one a few times and wasnít impressed. I vividly remember twisting the throttle to cross a street and found the acceleration was about Ĺ of what I expected. The F4i low rpm response was anemic comparing to a SV650 or a DRZ400sm. Even twisting the throttle past 10k rpm it didnít feel like there was much meat from the engine. Handling? Nope. I found the handling sharp on the í05 ZX-10R I had back then, like I expected from a sportbike, but felt the F4iís handling was unresponsive in comparison.

For an I4, Iíd get a literbike, otherwise a 650 or bigger twin would be better for street riding.
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The f4i dry weight is listed at 370, I doubt the 441 number.
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F4i wet weight was listed at 441. FZ-1 listed at 485.

An exhaust change and a lithium battery would put the FZ-1 pretty close in weight. They do need suspension tho... I couldn't live with the stock components that came with my 07 model.
Actual wet weight of the F4i is 430 pounds. My first-generation FZ-1 was 520 pounds. You can believe what some Internet rando typed into Wikipedia if you want, but that doesn't change the facts: the FZ-1 is quite a bit heavier than the F4i... and you feel every pound of the difference.
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