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Old 05-13-2021, 09:17 AM   #5851
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I would like to thank all the soccer moms of America that just can’t live without a SUV/crossover instead of a wagon (which usually has pretty much the same cargo capacity). All because they have some need to sit up high. You wind up with a taller heavier vehicle that handles like shit compared to a wagon and gets worse fuel mileage. All that for a view.
Try loading and unloading two kids into their carseat in a civic multiple times a day. You'll quickly learn why your mom started asking when you'll be have kids when you were in your 20's. My back aches just thinking about having to load them like that. I'll take my CRV with 90 degree rear doors and slightly higher ride height, worse fuel mileage, and shittier handling (I don't autocross the CRV), for the sake of staving off a couple of years of back ache.


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Old 05-13-2021, 10:03 AM   #5852
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Try loading and unloading two kids into their carseat in a civic multiple times a day. You'll quickly learn why your mom started asking when you'll be have kids when you were in your 20's. My back aches just thinking about having to load them like that. I'll take my CRV with 90 degree rear doors and slightly higher ride height, worse fuel mileage, and shittier handling (I don't autocross the CRV), for the sake of staving off a couple of years of back ache.


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100%

We better be out of my wife's A4 before the baby gets too big. Getting her in and out of the middle car seat is such a pain.
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:10 PM   #5853
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2 doors == shooting brake 4 doors == station wagon
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So a Pinto Wagon is a shooting brake?

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Weren't the original Shooting Brakes horse drawn?
all of the "original (insert 4 wheel vehicle)" were horse drawn because that's what provided power before "put an engine in that" was a thing

pacer for sure is, as is the Vega Wagon, which looks better than the pinto IMO



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I'm also loosing steam on these "wagons". They're borderline sedans with hatchbacks. A wagon was supposed to provide more space and functionality over a sedan. These new slew of wagons to me don't seem to do anything a sedan cant.

I guess we'll never see buick roadmasters or even slightly smaller wagons like that anymore.

The Audi $90k+ wagon is amazing but aside from room for a dog to roam, I'm over them.
i read an interesting agrument chain on bookface about this car, wagon vs shooting brake which was that a shooting brake has 2 doors AND A, B, C and D pillars. this hundai doesn't have a D pillar so 2 door vs 4 door aside it isn't even a Wagon because there is no D pillar. it's a hatchback.

i'm going to stick with the 2 door = shooting brake, 4 door = wagon distinction because the rest of it is a little too douchey for me but .... yeah this thing is a hatch back... but so is the Audi RS7. hatchbacks can be pretty sweet
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:18 PM   #5854
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:20 PM   #5855
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Try loading and unloading two kids into their carseat in a civic multiple times a day. You'll quickly learn why your mom started asking when you'll be have kids when you were in your 20's. My back aches just thinking about having to load them like that. I'll take my CRV with 90 degree rear doors and slightly higher ride height, worse fuel mileage, and shittier handling (I don't autocross the CRV), for the sake of staving off a couple of years of back ache.


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I did that for a couple of years with a 2 door Toyota Celica. You are not lying.
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Old 05-13-2021, 12:53 PM   #5856
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Try loading and unloading two kids into their carseat in a civic multiple times a day. You'll quickly learn why your mom started asking when you'll be have kids when you were in your 20's. My back aches just thinking about having to load them like that. I'll take my CRV with 90 degree rear doors and slightly higher ride height, worse fuel mileage, and shittier handling (I don't autocross the CRV), for the sake of staving off a couple of years of back ache.


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I work on plenty, and I mean plenty of SUVs that have no car seats in them. A lot of them I can tell are just single occupant all the time (no creases in the seat leather).

I don't have any kids. I bought an RDX last year, not for me, but my wife wants to sit up high and just wasn't interested in a sedan. And forget about the "w" word with her...those are soooo not cool.
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Old 05-13-2021, 01:30 PM   #5857
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I don't think Rob is thinking of a CRV with his on-point rant. We're talking about Tahoes, Suburbans, Expeditions, Excursions and the like. Also, I'm pretty sure your kiddo didn't need the $1000 carseat that comes with ever unnecessary bell and whistle and also weighs considerably more than your basic child's car seat. I watched a mother unload a car seat from her Tahoe today at Costco in amazement...it had a built in tablet holder and speakers.
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Old 05-13-2021, 01:58 PM   #5858
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Old 05-13-2021, 02:04 PM   #5859
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Old 05-13-2021, 02:05 PM   #5860
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I don't think Rob is thinking of a CRV with his on-point rant. We're talking about Tahoes, Suburbans, Expeditions, Excursions and the like. Also, I'm pretty sure your kiddo didn't need the $1000 carseat that comes with ever unnecessary bell and whistle and also weighs considerably more than your basic child's car seat. I watched a mother unload a car seat from her Tahoe today at Costco in amazement...it had a built in tablet holder and speakers.
Pretty sure when I was that age, I had a lap belt and an etch-a-sketch.
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Old 05-13-2021, 02:07 PM   #5861
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I don't think Rob is thinking of a CRV with his on-point rant.
He specifically said crossover. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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He specifically said crossover. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Ford called the Pinto "long roof" a wagon (see below). My argument is that the shooting brake term is ridiculous and only used by car nerds (me included sometimes) on exotic or rare vehicles. No one really sees a Pinto Wagon and thinks "Hey, sweet shooting brake."

We could move on to why Porsche feels coupe can be applied to 4-door SUVs or turbo to electric vehicles but that would be an exercise in frustration.


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i blame jalopnik for the explosion of the popularity of the Shooting brake name. when they pinto was available nobody knew what it was, now... people are all OOOOOOH. I can put all my gats in there and go hunting?. i want a vega shooting brake
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