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Old 09-30-2020, 05:29 PM   #16
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Wonder if an Indian bike would fall apart more or less than my Buell. Hearing about the royal enfield and mini ktm reliability I couldn't imagine wanting a bike from India especially if you have to go outta your way to get one. I don't see many finished products that come outta india, says something.
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:10 PM   #17
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Buell's later bikes were reliable.
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Old 10-01-2020, 02:02 PM   #18
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Old 10-01-2020, 02:51 PM   #19
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Honda's new CB350 for India...

If that were a twin, or a 450 four, probably sell well here in the states. Kind of bike that many of us mature folks started out on.
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Old 10-01-2020, 04:05 PM   #20
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Honda's new CB350 for India...

That's a very nice looking Honda Bonneville you have pictured there.
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Old 10-01-2020, 08:47 PM   #21
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Old 10-01-2020, 08:55 PM   #22
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Don’t make seats like that anymore.
Nowadays marketing dictates looking cool in photos takes priority over a comfy ass.
Anyhow not interested in any bikes from India.
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Old 10-01-2020, 10:29 PM   #23
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Buell's later bikes were reliable.
Some of the early ones were reliable.



I had a 99 M2, and it was fine. There was a recall on the gas tank hold down bolts, and I think one other thing, but the bike ran good and really didn't give me any problems. I actually rode with Eric Buell once on a group ride, and also met him a couple of times at other events.

He's fast, BTW!

I actually have a Royal Enfield C5 right now. That's the 500cc "Classic" that they just stopped making after about 65 years, and a couple of minor changes. Mine was made in 2012 when they were still at the old factory and a lot of stuff was done by hand, so for example, the pin striping on the side covers is hand painted.

Other than a dead battery, which is my fault - it's never given me any problems. Was using it to commute across the Bay Bridge off and on for about 2 years. Starts on second kick. Gets OK MPG. Good off the line.

Re: my new Kawasaki - RE quality not as good. The Kawasaki is perfect. Everything is literally beautiful, even when you look at it close. No imperfections of any kind.

The RE on the other hand, you can see machining marks, crappy welds, and that kind of stuff.

That being said, I think Royal Enfields are good quality from the perspective that if you take care of them, they are durable. I know in India, they are used when people go there and go on bike tours. I think the reason is that they are so primitive, and there's literally a million of them there, and a million people who can work on them!!!
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Old 10-02-2020, 01:36 AM   #24
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Old 10-02-2020, 10:17 AM   #25
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These new market bikes are physically smaller per displacement than the UJMs of the '70s
Yamaha SR 400 vs SR 500?
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Old 10-03-2020, 02:14 PM   #26
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Honda Bonneville Mini-me with a whopping 20HP... but it's cute.
20hp and with traction control?!

20hp IS traction control.
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Old 10-04-2020, 05:37 PM   #27
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Old 10-05-2020, 01:31 PM   #28
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Indian bikes certainly do offer some value, even possibly offering a lifeline to the US market if they became available here. I think 4-600cc multis would be most viable, but the Xpulse is cool as shit for $1.5k. Indian bikes, at least to me, are more palatable than Chinese offerings.

IMO Indian bikes at Indian prices offer good value (Classic $2100, Himalayan $2600, etc). Indian bikes in the US at US market pricing Himalayan $4750 + fees. IMO there is better value available in the US market.

If I could go out and buy a classic RE for $2100 or a Himalayan for $2600 sure I'd give it serious thought. Same bike at close to 5k, nope. We are seeing 2000 dollar quality at twice the price here in the US. Not great value.

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