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Old 09-28-2020, 10:20 AM   #16
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They're a liability to get rid of when you're done with it.
We had to pay several hundred dollars to have one removed when we bought our house a few years ago. My wife runs a daycare so it had to go. The workers had to cut it up to get it through the side yard - it wasnít easy. It had sat dormant for who knows how long. Glad to see go though.
I guess personally they arenít worth the hassle and expense to me to just sit in it for 15-20 minutes at a time a couple of times a week. One more thing to maintain.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:23 AM   #17
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Another factor. We have a large solar array on our house, in the summer months it runs the AC (3 months of mostly 100+ degrees) and the pool pump with no money owed to PG&E for electricity.

Since this will be used in the months when it's cooler outside, it won't be competing with the AC for power.

It probably will be used even while raining, we have a huge cantilever umbrella that will be over it.

For the Cal Spa's, the wait time is Feb if ordered now. Kind of a pain.

As to getting a used one, there appears to be a bunch of reasons not to get used, it's like buying a used car, at some point repair costs exceed the difference from new.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:31 AM   #18
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Sundance spa at a minimum. I bought a 7 year old used tub. Works great. Wire 220v. They take a ton of energy. Average 8-12kWh/day. We bought solar just because keeping the tub powered was so expensive.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:36 AM   #19
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Sounds like you have the heating cost covered, thatís a biggee. As for getting a used one Iím not sure why it would be a good idea other than cost and fast availability. Just like I wouldnít want to buy a used tub or toilet, unknown bodily fluids have been in there, I donít how much sanitizing you do, itís just the idea...
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The quoted numbers for heating with 110 vs 220 was quite different, clearly 220 will warm up the tub much faster. Unfortunately, we were given a quote of $9/foot and the distance would be at least 100 feet to put in 220v. I already have a line run out to the location for lighting for 110 v, and yeah it's fully sufficient gauge to handle the load.
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The quoted numbers for heating with 110 vs 220 was quite different, clearly 220 will warm up the tub much faster. Unfortunately, we were given a quote of $9/foot and the distance would be at least 100 feet to put in 220v. I already have a line run out to the location for lighting for 110 v, and yeah it's fully sufficient gauge to handle the load.
I'd be careful adding load onto any circuit that exists. That hot tub, at a minimum, will be using probably 15 amps. There's not much left.
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I'd be careful adding load onto any circuit that exists. That hot tub, at a minimum, will be using probably 15 amps. There's not much left.
Great point.

I've run my 13 amp blower/mulcher from this outdoor plug with no problems and run it for about 30 minutes straight.
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Get the smallest hot tub you can find
We bought a small 2 person hot springs a few years ago after I got tired of keeping our 20 yo hot springs going
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I'd be careful adding load onto any circuit that exists. That hot tub, at a minimum, will be using probably 15 amps. There's not much left.
At a minimum ha ha. You need 30 to 50 amps.
Our not so special tub ..runs a 50 amp and sometimes the heater pops the breaker.
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Depends on the hot tub.
My little Hot Springs has a dedicate 20 amp 115 breaker and works just fine.
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At a minimum ha ha. You need 30 to 50 amps.
Our not so special tub ..runs a 50 amp and sometimes the heater pops the breaker.
No, not necessarily. A large tub with good heating will need 30-50 amps. There are many 120 volt, 20 amp models out there. The jets are weak, and they take forever to heat the water, but they run 14-15 amps.

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Just depends how many gallons they need to heat. These days the super small 2-person tubs work just fine on a 120/20 circuit.
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No, not necessarily. A large tub with good heating will need 30-50 amps. There are many 120 volt, 20 amp models out there. The jets are weak, and they take forever to heat the water, but they run 14-15 amps.

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Yea no kidding..our old 110v jacuzzi 3 person took 3 to 5 hours to heat up in the summer..
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I bought a used Sundance 4 person tub (actually two people unless OFG party rules apply) and loved it every day. Spend the money for a good insulated one and wire it correctly with a dedicated 220 circuit. The 110v toggle between heat or jets as they have to allocate what little power they have available. If you don’t set it up correctly now you’ll tire of the headaches in short order.

A lot of good quality tubs are given away for just the cost of moving it. Buyer remodels new home, etc.
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