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Old 11-17-2020, 07:09 AM   #3016
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Thanks Bill, Looks like the east side of 16 right. This isn't part of the usual ADV ride so I was confused.

Looks like a fun road though!
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Old 11-17-2020, 07:29 AM   #3017
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Thanks Bill, Looks like the east side of 16 right. This isn't part of the usual ADV ride so I was confused.

Looks like a fun road though!
Yes it is! Someone needs to squeeze past the gate and tell us if it's passable.

https://bayarearidersforum.com/forum...ght=sand+creek

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Old 11-17-2020, 08:15 AM   #3018
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Yes it is! Someone needs to squeeze past the gate and tell us if it's passable.

https://bayarearidersforum.com/forum...ght=sand+creek

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Is there a gate at the Arbuckle entrance as well? Btw, I just love your ride reports, so inspiring, makes me want to go investigate right now!
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Old 11-17-2020, 08:46 AM   #3019
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Is there a gate at the Arbuckle entrance as well? Btw, I just love your ride reports, so inspiring, makes me want to go investigate right now!
There never used to be a gate at the Arbuckle end but there might be one now since the washout. Someone needs to find out!

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Old 11-17-2020, 08:54 AM   #3020
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That gate went up after the really wet spring of 2018, not sure how bad it is. I was tempted to go around the right side where that concrete pillar is leaned over, but decided not to.
I was tempted to go around too, basically treating it like the eastern entrance of Reiff Rd, but eventually decided against it.

In your report you take Sand Creek Rd all the way to Arbuckle; isn't it possible to turn left on Green Rd instead, then take Spring Valley Rd to end up on Walnut Dr?
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I was tempted to go around too, basically treating it like the eastern entrance of Reiff Rd, but eventually decided against it.

In your report you take Sand Creek Rd all the way to Arbuckle; isn't it possible to turn left on Green Rd instead, then take Spring Valley Rd to end up on Walnut Dr?
No actually I took Sand Creek to Cortina School Rd then a couple more jogs to end up on Walnut Rd, then crossed 20 to start Leesville Rd. (Click the map link in the ride report)

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Old 11-17-2020, 09:31 AM   #3022
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No actually I took Sand Creek to Cortina School Rd then a couple more jogs to end up on Walnut Rd, then crossed 20 to start Leesville Rd.
Yeah, I used "Arbuckle" for Cortina School Rd.

About a mile after Rd41 merges with Sand Creek Rd, there is a split on the road where one can continue right onto Sand Creek Rd (and end up on Cortina School Rd), or go left onto Green Rd, then after a couple of miles another left on Spring Valley Rd, which ends up on Walnut Dr.
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Yeah, I used "Arbuckle" for Cortina School Rd.

About a mile after Rd41 merges with Sand Creek Rd, there is a split on the road where one can continue right onto Sand Creek Rd (and end up on Cortina School Rd), or go left onto Green Rd, then after a couple of miles another left on Spring Valley Rd, which ends up on Walnut Dr.
Yeah, the local Indian tribe has bought lots of land in that area and has closed off Spring Valley Rd so that is not an option anymore.

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Old 11-18-2020, 05:44 PM   #3024
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Yeah, the local Indian tribe has bought lots of land in that area and has closed off Spring Valley Rd so that is not an option anymore.
That's too bad.

I presume that Rd57 that starts from Guinda, moves N/NE, meets Sills Rd, and terminates at Wyer Rd SE of Arbuckle is equally blocked at both ends?
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That's too bad.

I presume that Rd57 that starts from Guinda, moves N/NE, meets Sills Rd, and terminates at Wyer Rd SE of Arbuckle is equally blocked at both ends?
Rd. 57 is private and gated right after the Vernon Nichols County Park at cache creek bridge, not a county road but might have been at one time.

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Old 11-19-2020, 12:03 AM   #3026
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Rd. 57 is private and gated right after the Vernon Nichols County Park at cache creek bridge, not a county road but might have been at one time.
So it seems that Knoxville OHV and Reiff Rd are the only off-road trails one can find south of Hwy 20 these days?
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:49 AM   #3027
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Semi-related. Should one end up it lower lake, is there a way to get into Knoxville directly-ish from there without backtracking along Morgan Valley Road? I see roads that look plausible on maps, but I can't tell if I'll run into fences / gates. Adding a loop here is probably too good to be true.
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Old 11-20-2020, 12:15 PM   #3028
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have been paying attention to ride reports for that area for a long time, and I've never seen a report that people were able to make that loop.

which does not mean it can't be done ... guess it's one of those have-to-go-see deals. was having a campfire convo w/ someone recently who was telling me it could be done, from the road that leads down from the southern Knoxville BLM entrance, I think ...

anyway, not a righteous county road way to get from Morgan Valley to Knoxville that I know of from Hwy 29/Hidden Valley ...
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Old 11-20-2020, 01:12 PM   #3029
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Yeah, seems like the way to do it would be to do camp a few nights at Knoxville and spend the days exploring with the expectation of lots of back tracking. Not the worst way to spend a long weekend I suppose!
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