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Old 03-02-2014, 10:30 PM   #1
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Post your pictures from "back in the day" here. Old photos/articles only.

This thread has been moved from moto-photos to our new vintage forum. If you have old pictures or copies of articles, advertisements, what-have-you, post them here.

I've got a fairly extensive collection of old magazines, which I'd like to eventually scan. That's a project that I may never have the time or energy to complete, but I have scanned some interesting stuff more or less randomly.

I've created this thread to share it in. Anyone else who wishes to post scans from thier own collections may post them here as well.

I'd like to limit posted material to really old stuff, partially because of the historical interest, but also because under the "Fair Use" rules for using copyrighted materials, it's acceptible if there's no effect on the works value, which is the case with 40-50 + year old publications.

I'd like to start out with this article from the English magazine Motorcycling from 1938. A road test of the Brough Superior SS100.





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Old 03-02-2014, 10:43 PM   #2
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Ever consider hooking up with these folks?

Scanning and digitizing old books, periodicals, audio, video, you name it, is what they do... to preserve it and allow access to it on the interwebs. It's actually located here in SF.
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Ever consider hooking up with these folks?

Scanning and digitizing old books, periodicals, audio, video, you name it, is what they do... to preserve it and allow access to it on the interwebs. It's actually located here in SF.
I've seen that site before. Most of what I have is stuff that's still under copyright, and wholesale scanning of entire magazines might not qualify under fair usage.
They'd be the ones to ask, though. If anyone knows for sure it would be them.
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The cover of issue #1 of Cycle World Magazine
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The cover of issue #1 of Cycle World Magazine
Any chance of seeing that 'Death Valley Run' article? CW's website doesn't have archived articles going back that far.
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Any chance of seeing that 'Death Valley Run' article? CW's website doesn't have archived articles going back that far.
Yeah, I can scan that.

I didn't know that CW had posted any archived issues. How far back do they go?
This could have an effect on the strategy here. If they've posted any of the same stuff, I may need to talk to them about permission.
Is it possible that anything over 50 years old is no longer protected? That means I can post whatever I want from 1962 and 1963 or January-February 1964...
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Yeah, I can scan that.

I didn't know that CW had posted any archived issues. How far back do they go?
This could have an effect on the strategy here. If they've posted any of the same stuff, I may need to talk to them about permission.
Is it possible that anything over 50 years old is no longer protected? That means I can post whatever I want from 1962 and 1963 or January-February 1964...
Thank you, that would be great!

From what I could find, the oldest readable article is from 2007 and there doesn't appear to be any real archive access on line.
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Wow!

I love that Brough. Thanks for a great article I never knew existed on my all time favorite bike. I believe that's the brand of bike Lawrence of Arabia died on. Not sure on that.
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I love that Brough. Thanks for a great article I never knew existed on my all time favorite bike. I believe that's the brand of bike Lawrence of Arabia died on. Not sure on that.
That's the one. I think he owned a total of five broughs over the years.
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Death Valley Run article from CW #1

Here's the Death Valley Run article, pages 42 and 43 from Jan. 1962. Issue #1
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Here's the Death Valley Run article, pages 42 and 43 from Jan. 1962. Issue #1
Thanks Carlo! Very cool!
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Matchless ad from 1962

Back cover of January 1962 issue of Cycle World. This caught my eye when I was scanning the Death Valley Gypsy Tour article.
The history here is somewhat weird.
By 1962 what was left of the old Indian motorcycle company was owned by AMC (Associated Motor Cycles) in England, makers of AJS, Matchless, Francis Barnett, James, and maybe a couple of other old English companies.
In 1960 when AMC acquired the Indian name (that's about the only asset of any value that remained!), Indian dealers in the US were still selling re-badged Royal Enfields under the Indian name.
I've never heard a reason why, but AMC decided to call their Matchless motorcycles Indians in the US, but never bothered changing the old winged M Matchless badges or even pretending that they were anything but Matchless motorcycles.
This ad is from that odd period in motorcycling history. The name Apache was already pretty well known, since a Royal Enfield 700 had been sold under that name (with a gas tank badge which said Indian on it) between 1955 and 1960.
The most interesting thing about this add, though is the contest at the bottom. Matchless was planning to introduce a street legal version of their overhead cam racebike, the G50 to US buyers.
A few of these actually made it to the US, and the result of the contest was the name "Condor". The idea was quietly dropped shortly after.
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This is great stuff to see. My father in law is an old motorcycle racer & he's getting a kick outta these historical documents. I've sent him these articles & he's lovin it. He's such an interesting guy & these old articles get him talkin moto as soon as he sees them. I swear his eyes light up as he tells the stories of riding those old bikes. Makes me wanna go out and dirt ride an old BSA.
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This is great stuff to see. My father in law is an old motorcycle racer & he's getting a kick outta these historical documents. I've sent him these articles & he's lovin it. He's such an interesting guy & these old articles get him talkin moto as soon as he sees them. I swear his eyes light up as he tells the stories of riding those old bikes. Makes me wanna go out and dirt ride an old BSA.
Hey! Sit down with him and get him talking, record it and get his permission to publish! I missed my chance to record Ray Cortez (one of Dick Mann's riding buddies). He was a neighbor's dad. I used to go to bbq's at his house and loved it when he talked about riding & racing.

His perspective on those events is long gone now.
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