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Old 02-10-2021, 02:31 PM   #1
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Non M/C question, doorless, legal?

First of all, a big "thank you" to all the LEOs and their families who do what they do, every day, to protect our communities. Much, much, respect and appreciation.

I hope this is ok, not a motorcycle question.

I'm one of them folks waiting on a 2021 Ford Bronco.

One of the cool features is, the doors come off and the sideview mirrors, being attached to the A-pilar, stay on (unlike Jeeps).

So my question is, would driving this on a CA highway, with the doors off be legal?

I'm not questioning the wisdom of jamming down 580 like this. I'm thinking like going to-from trailheads, running into town from Prairie City to get lunch, that sort of thing.

All else being legal (lights, horn, mirrors, yada-yada) If I drove into town like this, am I going to be cited in CA?



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Old 02-10-2021, 02:54 PM   #2
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CVC 26709 says mirrors are required, so the Bronco meets that.

I read nothing that says doors are required.
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Old 02-10-2021, 03:03 PM   #3
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CVC 26709 says mirrors are required, so the Bronco meets that.

I read nothing that says doors are required.
Sweet!

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Old 02-10-2021, 03:07 PM   #4
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I see Jeeps around here once in a while without doors. But this ain't California.

When I finally get my Bronco, I might drive it once or twice with the doors off, just because. Personally, I don't see the advantage of taking the doors off for anything that I plan to do with it.
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Old 02-10-2021, 03:13 PM   #5
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I see Jeeps around here once in a while without doors. But this ain't California.

When I finally get my Bronco, I might drive it once or twice with the doors off, just because. Personally, I don't see the advantage of taking the doors off for anything that I plan to do with it.
I had a '68 Bronco I used to rock crawl in the mid-Atlantic region.

Doors don't like trees.

I had beautiful 1968 doors. I would take them off, trailer the truck to weekend events, and bounce around. I'll never forget the sicking feeling I got when I had the doors on, and slowly.... kinda..... rocked.... to the left, and put a door into a tree.

That's what I'm hoping to avoid when I feel "adventurous". My use-case for doorless-mode, is that. But I didn't wanna hassle with off/on to use public roads as needed.
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Old 02-10-2021, 04:09 PM   #6
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Without the doors, you can lean out and see your wheels. Helps when rock crawling.
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Tubular doors maybe just to be safe?

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Old 02-10-2021, 05:15 PM   #8
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Without the doors, you can lean out and see your wheels. Helps when rock crawling.
True, but the new Bronco's got this
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Old 02-10-2021, 05:16 PM   #9
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Tubular doors maybe just to be safe?

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thought about that, maybe later TBH I've got lots$ and lot$ of $ going into this already. maybe down the "road"
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Sweet!

Thanks!
Guess what else doesn't have doors? My motorcycle.

It is legal.




Once when I was in high school, my friend took the doors off of his Honda Accord and we drove around town like that. He also installed a novelty horn that played a bunch of "horn tunes" like La Cucaracha. He also disconnected the windshield washer nozzles from the windshield. He'd squirt cars behind him, or bicycle riders that he passed. People would get pissed. . We were just dumb high school kids. Ahhh, the memories of taking doors off.
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I saw Jeep running around OC like this. I didn't notice the thing about the mirrors.

It works, legally, I think because the occupants are restrained (i.e. seat belts). For example, I think the problem with people in a pickup bed isn't that they're in the bed, it's that they're not restrained.

And here I wistfully remember the days of old when we run around in the desert, 6 people in an original short bed Toyota pickup, 2 in front, 4 in back, in beach chairs facing each other. It was, truly, a wonderful way to travel.

Another trip, just four of use, up to Sequoia. My friend and I in the back. There's a peace when traveling as a passenger in NOT seeing the traffic in front of you. No "slow down", "speed up", "pass this guy", "look at that idiot" that always just happens automatically as a back seat driver.

You are just along for the ride.

At one point, we were talking and the driver slammed on the brakes for...Something. I turned to my friend and said, "Well, that's it!" He goes "Yea. See you around!". Nothing happened of course.

Save for when it snowed on us, it really was a neat way to travel. I've spent hundreds of miles in the back of a pickup.
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I’ve run my Jeep with full doors, half doors and no doors. Great fun.

Mirrors on and good to go.
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I did get a lot of flack during my "I quit motos period", driving my jeep with the windshield down thru town.
Cops hated it, I got a few warnings. I was thinking about small flyscreens as used on sports cars, (early MG) or what passes for a low windscreen on day cruiser boats.
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CVC 26709 says mirrors are required, so the Bronco meets that.

I read nothing that says doors are required.
Two mirrors to be specific... Rear view and drivers, OR drivers and passenger.
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