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Old 09-19-2019, 04:02 PM   #1
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Shops unable to install exhausts in CA?

I just called the shop where my motorcycle is currently receiving an insurance estimate on. My moto was stolen and they stripped my Yoshi RS4 exhaust and power commander off it and StateFarm told me to tell my shop to include the cost of those parts and labor into the estimate instead of the OEM.

I just called my shop and they said they cannot do that because they cannot install any aftermarket exhaust on any motorcycle in California right now.

As far as I was aware I thought it was only on bikes newer than 2013. What law doesn't allow aftermarket exhausts to be installed?
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Old 09-19-2019, 06:04 PM   #2
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I don’t think there is one. Factory Shops however face a big fine for violators. Try a independent race shop (they still do but address the law specifically vs. we won’t do it.

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Old 09-19-2019, 07:28 PM   #3
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"Cannot install any aftermarket exhaust" is an extremely dumbed-down version of the truth. CA-compliant aftermarket pipes can be installed, but as we're early in the industry pulling their heads out of the sand and getting their shit together on this, compliant pipes aren't available for many bikes.

The reality is that shops (and people) have been legally limited in what exhausts can be installed on road-going bikes for some time. Track-specific bikes are different, but that loophole was so overused that it got goatse-esque, and that's a big part of how we got here. More info here.

If you had a non-compliant pipe on your bike, you're gonna have a hard time getting a shop to put that pipe on again (and that probably applies to the PC as well). According to my research in this area, Yoshimura seems to be leading the industry in making California-compliant pipes, but they don't seem to have one for your bike—note the race-only acknowledgment on the page for the 2012 - 2016 Ninja 650 Race RS-4S pipe.

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Old 09-19-2019, 07:48 PM   #4
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So what if they can't actually do the work. They should still include it as part of the insurance estimate so you can get reimbursed.
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Old 09-19-2019, 09:53 PM   #5
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Some shops will do the work as long as your bike is "towed in" and used for "closed course" recreation only. Same goes with dyno work.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:07 PM   #6
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It is an independent shop. Evolution to be exact. I'm trying to get them to just write it as an estimate. Same with the power commander that was ripped off when my bike was stolen. I had previously installed the RS4 exhaust myself. I thought that any bike older than 2014 had less restrictions on exhaust, even though Yoshi clearly states on their website racing only... had to get a loud pipe.

Does anyone know what specific law it is and which law I am thinking about that relates to bikes newer than 2013?

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Old 09-20-2019, 05:56 PM   #7
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Some shops will do the work as long as your bike is "towed in" and used for "closed course" recreation only. Same goes with dyno work.
^^^ This. When I wanted SJ BMW to install a mid-pipe/ full exhaust and race ecu on my 2014 HP4, they didn't know me from Adam. Wanted the bike towed in and towed away to do the work. They have known me for 3 years and had no issues installing a full exhaust on my 2020 S1000RR. I towed it in and towed it away so everything was copacetic.
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I just called the shop where my motorcycle is currently receiving an insurance estimate on. My moto was stolen and they stripped my Yoshi RS4 exhaust and power commander off it and StateFarm told me to tell my shop to include the cost of those parts and labor into the estimate instead of the OEM.

I just called my shop and they said they cannot do that because they cannot install any aftermarket exhaust on any motorcycle in California right now.

As far as I was aware I thought it was only on bikes newer than 2013. What law doesn't allow aftermarket exhausts to be installed?
Call a better shop.
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Old 10-05-2019, 05:58 PM   #10
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Multiple issues with aftermarket exhaust in CA.
First, most major suppliers won't ship to CA address.
Shop's can get fined from $10K - $50K for getting caught installing after market exhaust on street machines. That's why many shops just won't go there. (Including the one I used to work for).
When I was writing damage estimates I'd write the estimate with whatever you wanted on it (given it was truly damaged or stolen) with footnotes indicating aftermarket exhaust availability and "no install" policy.
I told many folks the closest place to get after market exhaust installed on their bikes is to go to Reno. i.e.; out of state
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:03 PM   #11
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Weird. When I got rear-ended last year and had muffler damage, the repair shop called me and said the OEM muffler was on back order and may take a while to arrive, but they have some new spanking Yoshi's, and do I want to wait on the OEMs or do the Yoshi. I told them if they have the carbon fiber version to go ahead and throw them on...thank you very much!
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Old 10-06-2019, 08:11 AM   #12
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Weird. When I got rear-ended last year and had muffler damage, the repair shop called me and said the OEM muffler was on back order and may take a while to arrive, but they have some new spanking Yoshi's, and do I want to wait on the OEMs or do the Yoshi. I told them if they have the carbon fiber version to go ahead and throw them on...thank you very much!

Is the Yoshi DOT approved? If the aftermarket pipe is DOT approved then it is legal.
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Pretty much covered. All the shops I have done business with no longer do dyno or pipes on street bikes, period. The fine is huge.

Most will do an obvious race bike.
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Old 10-12-2019, 12:06 PM   #14
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:39 PM   #15
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Why is dynoing illegal?
Getting a horsepower number isn't illegal. Using a dyno to tune the air/fuel mixture is.

...at least in the state the you guys live in.
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