Net-Moto :: Community :: Racing :: :: Racing Videos Sponsor :: Contact
 Forums   Features   Trackdays   Moto Crash Incidents   Race Team   CMSP Training   Sponsors      Donate   Terms of Service 
BARF - Bay Area Riders Forum  Home   UserCP   Register   Calendar   Members   FAQ   Search  AMA

Go Back   BARF - Bay Area Riders Forum > BARF Love of Community > Riders On The Mend


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-09-2016, 05:24 PM   #1
Honey Badger
...iz a girl
 
Honey Badger's Avatar
 
BARF Moderator: Racers Corner BARF Racer
1% Contributor
Barf Roadside Angel

Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Daly City, CA
Motorcycles: 2017 ZX10R (race); 2016 ZX10R (street); 1978 CB750-4
Name: AJ
Broken Tib/fib journal

Okay, this was far from a life-threatening incident, but probably the most laid up I've been for a longer time period. This is mostly just to journal my progress as things happen, since I'm not entirely certain what to expect, and at this point, my ortho isn't even sure what to expect.

Basically, I was in a dirt bike class, my first time on a dirt bike. Most boring crash in the world, but managed to snap my tib/fib pretty badly. Thankfully I had full moto cross boots on (Tech 3s) since I'm guessing anything less would have resulted in a nasty compound fracture - things at least stayed closed.

This happened on Saturday, December 3, 2016, a little before noon.

I went to the ER, where they x-rayed and consulted with the on-call ortho. They put on a soft cast, and sent me off with some pain meds with instructions to contact a local ortho back home.

After doing some research on orthos in my insurance network, and doing some research on the ones that were relatively local, I decided on a sports medicine doc who had a resume working with athletes and reviews of his work were pretty good. I got in to see them that same afternoon.

We had to re-xray the leg, and he wasn't happy. First, he wasn't happy the ER just sent me home, he felt it should have been fixed right then and there (I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever have a good experience in an ER - every time I've been in one, it has been a horrible experience either at the time or afterwards finding out their incompetence).

Secondly, apparently the break was pretty bad. Both bones fully broken just north of the ankle, with an angular break on the tibia. Additionally, there were hairline fractures through the tibia head, which concerned him in regards to the ankle joint. To top it all off, since the ER had just sent me home, I had developed a fracture blister, which would make surgery that much more complicated as they cannot break the blisters (significant increase in risk of infection if those are broken).

Surgery is scheduled for next Tuesday, December 13. According to the PA today at my pre-op, there will be open redaction with external fixation....he claims I'll be able to crutch around like I have been this week, just can't put any weight on the leg (which is pretty much my current situation). As long as I can still get around in crutches, I'll deal, although it sounds like it will be a total PITA. I was hoping for "just" internal fixation (plates n screws), but doesn't sound like that's the plan

In the meantime, I'm just adjusting to life with crutches. Thankfully I can telecommute a fair bit with my job, so that helps make things a little easier, I'm not having to burn up a bunch of PTO. If I do need to go into the office, that's a bit of a PITA, but do-able. My teammate (Ozymandias here on le BARF) temporarily traded trucks with me so I could use his automatic (my truck is a manual - kind of tough to use right now LOL).

I'm probably going to head up to Sacramento for part of Monday and go see my new bike that I (ironically) just picked up last Friday, the night before this happened. I'm just hoping I'm ready to ride by the time the bike is....but at least going up and seeing it and talking to the guys who are helping me set it up will give me something happy to think about going into surgery.

The off-season is good in that I have some time before I really start missing out on things, but the bad thing is, it's also a little too easy to just want to be lazy about healing and accept the long term plans they like to hand out to average joes - which is not usually my M.O. Hopefully seeing my bike go together will motivate me to stick with a more aggressive treatment plan
__________________
Racing Like a Honey Badger Blog

AFM #302

Special thanks to my 2019 sponsors and supporters!!
RiderzLaw; Roseville Yamaha-Kawasaki; BARF Racing; MCTech; DareDevil Motorsports; Fast Franks Racing; Pacific Track Time; Motion Pro; Chicken Hawk Racing; Skratch Labs


BARF TOS
Honey Badger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2016, 05:28 PM   #2
Honey Badger
...iz a girl
 
Honey Badger's Avatar
 
BARF Moderator: Racers Corner BARF Racer
1% Contributor
Barf Roadside Angel

Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Daly City, CA
Motorcycles: 2017 ZX10R (race); 2016 ZX10R (street); 1978 CB750-4
Name: AJ
Pre-casting x-ray

__________________
Racing Like a Honey Badger Blog

AFM #302

Special thanks to my 2019 sponsors and supporters!!
RiderzLaw; Roseville Yamaha-Kawasaki; BARF Racing; MCTech; DareDevil Motorsports; Fast Franks Racing; Pacific Track Time; Motion Pro; Chicken Hawk Racing; Skratch Labs


BARF TOS
Honey Badger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2016, 05:47 PM   #3
dravnx
Veteran
 
dravnx's Avatar
 
AMA #3018349
Contributor +++++++
Barf Roadside Angel

Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: santa rosa, ca
Motorcycles: '12 DL650A '15 FJR1300A
Name: Jeff
Wow, that really sucks. Hope you heal up well and fast. I broke my fib almost 2 years ago and still don't have complete stability in my ankle.
dravnx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2016, 06:03 PM   #4
onto1wheel
Riding All The Time
 
onto1wheel's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Monterey Bay
Motorcycles: kawi kawi yam yam beta honda honda
Name:
ER sent you home!?!?!?!? WTF!?!?!?!?
Seeing those x-rays, i'm shocked they would do that (but hey, i'm no doctor)
Good luck with the mending. This is your chance to come back better/stronger (that's how I always look at it)

Dirt really is good for you, sounds like you just had some bad luck
__________________
I like to ride bikes
onto1wheel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2016, 07:37 PM   #5
motomania2007
MSF/MTC CMSP Instructor
 

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Merced, CA
Motorcycles: BMW R1200R, FZ09, FZR400, CR250R
Name: George
Wow! Heal up fast!

If you get to where you are NOT with an external fixation, I have a device I used last year when I tore my calf muscle: Think of it as a strapped on peg-leg. The bottom half has an adjustable length to be similar length to your lower leg, the top half is a padded shelf and a brace. You bend your knee and kneel onto the shelf then secure the pegleg to your thigh and upper calf/shin.

It allows you to walk around without crutches without being weight bearing on your lower leg.

If you want it, we just need to figure out a way to get it to you. I will be in Newark Wed-Friday next week and some Barfers were planning to come out here next Saturday to play on my dirt track, weather providing, so someone might be able to get it to you.
__________________
<stands, raises hand> Hello, my name is George and I am a motorcycle addict!

Please come to one of my MSF, Total Control or CMSP classes and allow me to share my addiction with you.
Total Control MTC, IRC and ARC instructor

http://www.valleymotorcycletraining.com/signup.html

The best performance upgrade is upgrading the operating system of the operator. It is cheap, easy, fast, safe and works on every bike you will ever ride.

I am also a Patent Attorney so if I can help you with any IP matters, please just ask.
motomania2007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2016, 07:51 PM   #6
Honey Badger
...iz a girl
 
Honey Badger's Avatar
 
BARF Moderator: Racers Corner BARF Racer
1% Contributor
Barf Roadside Angel

Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Daly City, CA
Motorcycles: 2017 ZX10R (race); 2016 ZX10R (street); 1978 CB750-4
Name: AJ
Quote:
Originally Posted by dravnx View Post
Wow, that really sucks. Hope you heal up well and fast. I broke my fib almost 2 years ago and still don't have complete stability in my ankle.
Thanks...I'm going to chase down good, aggressive PT, so that should help. Not one to sit around and just wait for things to heal, but i also want to be sure it heals right and well.

Quote:
Originally Posted by onto1wheel View Post
ER sent you home!?!?!?!? WTF!?!?!?!?
Seeing those x-rays, i'm shocked they would do that (but hey, i'm no doctor)
Good luck with the mending. This is your chance to come back better/stronger (that's how I always look at it)

Dirt really is good for you, sounds like you just had some bad luck
Ya, my ortho was pissed when he saw the xray...not being a doc, since they had supposedly talked to an ortho, i just figured maybe it wasn't that bad. His reaction said otherwise.

It really was just total bad luck...completely a freak accident, don't have so much as a bruise anywhere else!

Quote:
Originally Posted by motomania2007 View Post
Wow! Heal up fast!

If you get to where you are NOT with an external fixation, I have a device I used last year when I tore my calf muscle: Think of it as a strapped on peg-leg. The bottom half has an adjustable length to be similar length to your lower leg, the top half is a padded shelf and a brace. You bend your knee and kneel onto the shelf then secure the pegleg to your thigh and upper calf/shin.

It allows you to walk around without crutches without being weight bearing on your lower leg.

If you want it, we just need to figure out a way to get it to you. I will be in Newark Wed-Friday next week and some Barfers were planning to come out here next Saturday to play on my dirt track, weather providing, so someone might be able to get it to you.
Thanks...i could see something like that being really helpful...I'm supposed to be able to crutch around post-surgery (better be the case with my living situation), but something like that would be great for getting to and from work and such. I'll see what they order up for me, too.
__________________
Racing Like a Honey Badger Blog

AFM #302

Special thanks to my 2019 sponsors and supporters!!
RiderzLaw; Roseville Yamaha-Kawasaki; BARF Racing; MCTech; DareDevil Motorsports; Fast Franks Racing; Pacific Track Time; Motion Pro; Chicken Hawk Racing; Skratch Labs


BARF TOS
Honey Badger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2016, 10:10 PM   #7
motomania2007
MSF/MTC CMSP Instructor
 

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Merced, CA
Motorcycles: BMW R1200R, FZ09, FZR400, CR250R
Name: George
Quote:
Originally Posted by Honey Badger View Post

Thanks...i could see something like that being really helpful...I'm supposed to be able to crutch around post-surgery (better be the case with my living situation), but something like that would be great for getting to and from work and such. I'll see what they order up for me, too.

It is called an iWalk
__________________
<stands, raises hand> Hello, my name is George and I am a motorcycle addict!

Please come to one of my MSF, Total Control or CMSP classes and allow me to share my addiction with you.
Total Control MTC, IRC and ARC instructor

http://www.valleymotorcycletraining.com/signup.html

The best performance upgrade is upgrading the operating system of the operator. It is cheap, easy, fast, safe and works on every bike you will ever ride.

I am also a Patent Attorney so if I can help you with any IP matters, please just ask.
motomania2007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2016, 11:51 PM   #8
packnrat
Veteran
 
Contributor

Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: california
Motorcycles: 2004 FZ1 1993 klr 650 1978 xl 350
Name:
Post

get a lawyer to talk to the incompant (what ever) that looked you over in er.

time for this is now.
packnrat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2016, 07:22 AM   #9
MtnRider
Veteran
 
MtnRider's Avatar
 
Contributor +

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Clovertuckey
Motorcycles: '07 GSA '12 GSA '01 748S, '00 VFR, '73 V7 Sport (Dad's bike)
Name: Sam
I can relate to some extent. I crashed March of 2015 with Dainese Torque Out boots on and this was my ankle. I was going to have surgery that night at the ER but the Ortho had left for the day so I got a cast and sent home as well.

I was referred to podiatry and due to my lack of knowledge and misunderstanding cancelled to see an Ortho specialist. When I went to the Ortho apt I saw someone in podiatry WTF? In KAISER's world podiatry handles all feet AND ankles. I had my surgery a week and one day after the accident.

Now I'm scheduled for another surgery in Feb to have my parts taken out.

I do believe there are some absurd screw ups in the medical field but I'd like to hope they have seen enough to know what is and is not URGENT. Not everyone is a pro athlete like yourself and a typical fix may be just fine for most. I'm sure for both of us if we had pro athlete pay we would have been properly taken care of immediately.

Click image for larger version

Name:	Ankle 1.jpg
Views:	18
Size:	40.9 KB
ID:	489155
Click image for larger version

Name:	Ankle.jpg
Views:	18
Size:	43.4 KB
ID:	489156
__________________
People say I have A.D.D. they just don't understand......HEY LOOK A MOTORCYCLE!

The adventures of my buddy and I.....man love at its best
Instagram Facebook
MtnRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2016, 07:39 AM   #10
doc4216
Coastie who high fives
 
doc4216's Avatar
 
AMA #3289553
Contributor + + + + +

Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Alameda
Motorcycles: 2010 R1200R; 2016 R1200RS
Name: Shannon
AJ, hope your surgery goes well! If you need anything (dinners, help with grocery shopping, etc) let me know. I can always buzz up after work.
__________________
A straight road never made a skilled rider.
doc4216 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2016, 09:09 AM   #11
Honey Badger
...iz a girl
 
Honey Badger's Avatar
 
BARF Moderator: Racers Corner BARF Racer
1% Contributor
Barf Roadside Angel

Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Daly City, CA
Motorcycles: 2017 ZX10R (race); 2016 ZX10R (street); 1978 CB750-4
Name: AJ
Quote:
Originally Posted by motomania2007 View Post
It is called an iWalk
cool, thanks, once I'm able, if I'm still not weight bearing, I will definitely look into that, if nothing else it would make getting to work and navigating bart stations a hell of a lot easier.

Quote:
Originally Posted by packnrat View Post
get a lawyer to talk to the incompant (what ever) that looked you over in er.

time for this is now.
I happen to know a lawyer LOL, I'm reaching out to see what their opinion is.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MtnRider View Post
I can relate to some extent. I crashed March of 2015 with Dainese Torque Out boots on and this was my ankle. I was going to have surgery that night at the ER but the Ortho had left for the day so I got a cast and sent home as well.

I was referred to podiatry and due to my lack of knowledge and misunderstanding cancelled to see an Ortho specialist. When I went to the Ortho apt I saw someone in podiatry WTF? In KAISER's world podiatry handles all feet AND ankles. I had my surgery a week and one day after the accident.

Now I'm scheduled for another surgery in Feb to have my parts taken out.

I do believe there are some absurd screw ups in the medical field but I'd like to hope they have seen enough to know what is and is not URGENT. Not everyone is a pro athlete like yourself and a typical fix may be just fine for most. I'm sure for both of us if we had pro athlete pay we would have been properly taken care of immediately.

Attachment 489155
Attachment 489156
Exactly. Pros are definitely treated differently, the main things being the speed and frequency of treatment and PT, and then access to PT stuff 'normal' PT places can't even justify having (such as the zero gravity treadmill). But I'm going to pressure my ortho for good, aggressive PT. I'll need to make it abundantly clear that I'm not willing to sit around like a "normal" person and just wait it out...I want to do it right, but not the typical treatment plan they give to everyone, either.

Quote:
Originally Posted by doc4216 View Post
AJ, hope your surgery goes well! If you need anything (dinners, help with grocery shopping, etc) let me know. I can always buzz up after work.
Thanks, much appreciated. At this point things are okay, I'm mostly concerned with the couple days post op when I'm pretty sure I'll be feeling like shit. Once that passes and I adjust to whatever I have to deal it, at this point I'm already starting to figure out what I can do on my own, what I can pay a little extra for and make it work (like grocery delivery) and what I need help with (stupid stuff, like taking out the trash!).
__________________
Racing Like a Honey Badger Blog

AFM #302

Special thanks to my 2019 sponsors and supporters!!
RiderzLaw; Roseville Yamaha-Kawasaki; BARF Racing; MCTech; DareDevil Motorsports; Fast Franks Racing; Pacific Track Time; Motion Pro; Chicken Hawk Racing; Skratch Labs


BARF TOS
Honey Badger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2016, 11:13 AM   #12
EastBayDave
- Kawasaki Fanatic -
 
EastBayDave's Avatar
 
Founding Member
From the heart

Join Date: May 2002
Location: San Lorenzo, CA "The Mudflats"
Motorcycles: ZRX1200
Name: "Dave"
Quote:
Originally Posted by packnrat View Post
get a lawyer to talk to the incompant (what ever) that looked you over in er.

time for this is now.
seems to happen every time I go to an ER if it's motorcycle related. There is rampant discrimination against riders among doctors/ER personnel. I have experienced this more than a few times. Even Orthopedic surgeons/specialists have lowered themselves to cortisone shots or even less =to fix everything from clear breaks (easy to see on x-ray even to my untrained eye), to torn/stretched ligaments.

If I sound bitter; it's because I am. I got put off by one guy for YEARS. I finally went to a European Orthopedic Surgeon who didn't discriminate (riders common transport there.) He fixed me right up; I just hated myself for not finding him sooner...

Don't wait; get a law specialist to represent you. At the same time research a good Ortho Doc who won't discriminate against you. I had GREAT results from this Ortho Doc/great guy:
http://health.usnews.com/doctors/gregg-pottorff-22853
__________________
Enjoy the ride!
EastBayDave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2016, 12:06 PM   #13
NB0tt
Veteran
 
NB0tt's Avatar
 
AMA #3302970
1% Contributor

Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Livergulch
Motorcycles: r dumb
Name:
I'm making a large thing of chili today.....I can freeze some of it and bring it to you post-surgery when you're ready.

Also, for grocery delivery check out Safeway....you can almost always find a coupon to make delivery free.
NB0tt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2016, 12:43 PM   #14
Honey Badger
...iz a girl
 
Honey Badger's Avatar
 
BARF Moderator: Racers Corner BARF Racer
1% Contributor
Barf Roadside Angel

Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Daly City, CA
Motorcycles: 2017 ZX10R (race); 2016 ZX10R (street); 1978 CB750-4
Name: AJ
Quote:
Originally Posted by NB0tt View Post
I'm making a large thing of chili today.....I can freeze some of it and bring it to you post-surgery when you're ready.

Also, for grocery delivery check out Safeway....you can almost always find a coupon to make delivery free.
Thanks, I'm guessing I'd appreciate some easy food come Thursday/Friday next week

I'm having Safeway deliver - scheduled to come today. Lots of ways to get the delivery free, and while the food costs a little more than in store, right now the convenience is more than worth it!
__________________
Racing Like a Honey Badger Blog

AFM #302

Special thanks to my 2019 sponsors and supporters!!
RiderzLaw; Roseville Yamaha-Kawasaki; BARF Racing; MCTech; DareDevil Motorsports; Fast Franks Racing; Pacific Track Time; Motion Pro; Chicken Hawk Racing; Skratch Labs


BARF TOS
Honey Badger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2016, 04:46 PM   #15
mototireguy
Moto Tire Veteran
 
mototireguy's Avatar
 
Valgar beer donor
Contributor +

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: San Francisco, CA
Motorcycles: FJR13 - XR650L - Madass 125
Name: Robbie
I'm surprised no one has asked yet, Is the bike ok?

Wishing you an uncomplicated healing process. You'll be back.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	braap.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	82.2 KB
ID:	489188  
__________________
* Motorcycle Tire Services @ http://MotoTireGuy.com
* 1064 Revere Ave, San Francisco CA 94124
mototireguy is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:36 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.