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Old 02-13-2019, 01:12 PM   #31
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Jeez...they were just a couple kids out having fun. They looked like good kids too. I would have had a talk with them then probably raced them back down the mtn. So many up tight people in the world today
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Old 02-13-2019, 01:28 PM   #32
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The amount of conjecture, speculation, assumption, etc going on in this thread, all based on the small amount of information we have in the OP, is staggering.
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Old 02-13-2019, 01:39 PM   #33
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The amount of conjecture, speculation, assumption, etc going on in this thread, all based on the small amount of information we have in the OP, is staggering.
I feel like we just distilled everything wrong with the internet into one thread....
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Old 02-13-2019, 01:41 PM   #34
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Well pressing charges is harsh. Im sure the cops will give them a stearn talking

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Old 02-13-2019, 01:44 PM   #35
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Old 02-13-2019, 01:45 PM   #36
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Well pressing charges is harsh. Im sure the cops will give them a stearn talking
Officers don't decide whether or not charges are filed - that's up to the DA.
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:17 PM   #37
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with all of the more serious shit happening in this state, I can't see the law being too harsh on them,
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:28 PM   #38
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Jeez...they were just a couple kids out having fun. They looked like good kids too. I would have had a talk with them then probably raced them back down the mtn. So many up tight people in the world today
And you say they “looked like good kids” based on... what exactly?

They were out having fun where they weren’t supposed to and endangering others. They should experience the consequences of their actions.
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If it were me, just hitting some dude on a bicycle and hurting him and having him go berzerk would have been enough to get the point across and make me remember it forever. If the kids were lippy as fk, then I'm down with the cyclist seeing things through.

When I was thirteen or so, I threw a bottle like a little douchebag in a cul-de-sac at an apartment complex and some crazy angry guy comes rage stomping out of his apartment and grabs me by the back of the next and yanks me inside and sets a broom and dustpan next to the telephone and told me to choose. I chose the broom and dustpan and shame-swept all the broken glass. Scary at the time, but I like that guy in hindsight.
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:56 PM   #40
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I'm amused people are trying to defend the riders.

You shouldn't have a dirt bike if you can't use it responsibly.
I don't disagree with you at all.
My issue is with the overkill of his response.
There's a lot of room between what he did and what he could have done, that's all.
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:12 PM   #41
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Its conjecture on all our parts as we dont know what was going through the head of the mtn biker. That said, based on my experience on multi use trails where mtn bikers and dirt bikers inter act on a regular basis and such collisions are very rare, its what I believe in my opinion to be the most logical explanation of what happened.

Collisions like that just dont randomly happen. Even if the kids were going full tilt boogie without regard to others, I find if very hard to believe there was no action the mtn biker could have taken to avoid a collision or that he/she was surprised by their presence therefore took no action. Just not believable in my experience on multi use trails.

And yes I understand its not a multi use trail and that the kids shouldnt have been riding there. Its not victim blaming. Either a little common sense with a sprinkle of self preservation was ignored by the mtn biker, or he put himself in the way to stop the riders.


Could it be that the bicyclist avoided possible death or at least serious injury/broken ribs/punctured lung and instead managed to escape relatively unharmed?
Why do you presuppose that he didn't attempt to get out of the way?
Why is the level of his injuries the (apparent) limit of damage that can be inflicted on an unprotected body by a metal object with hard edges traveling at forty miles per hour?

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Could it be that the bicyclist avoided possible death or at least serious injury/broken ribs/punctured lung and instead managed to escape relatively unharmed?
Why do you presuppose that he didn't attempt to get out of the way?
Why is the level of his injuries the (apparent) limit of damage that can be inflicted on an unprotected body by a metal object with hard edges traveling at forty miles per hour?



Hope you are taking this with a grain of salt, not trolling you. This could be a three jager discussion

How do I presuppose this? Because there was a collision. If it was a blind corner and he had moved or stood off the trail to the inside of the corner, it would have been impossible (ok nearly) for a collision to have taken place.

I ridden decades and thousands of hours on tight TWO WAY single tack trails and successfully avoided having collisions with others in the opposite direction. Luck? Dont think so. Called common sense

He admits he knew bikes were up there when he was following their tracks. Unless he was also deaf or has a learning disability that doesn't allow for even the most rudimentary ability to judge distance and speed, it would be hard NOT to avoid others on the trail.

God forbid it was some mtn biker ripping down the trail that makes even LESS noise than a couple of two stroke dirt bikes. BRRRRRRAAAAP

So if he cant avoid collision with some LOUD two strokes and is surprised by their presence, how are we to believe he avoids quiet mtn bikers?

Mtn Bikers can rip at speeds equaling dirtbikes, especially down hill.

Coincidence? I dont think so. Hence my opinion that he either instigated a confrontation or made some silly spandex clad hold his ground decision on the trail.

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Old 02-13-2019, 04:32 PM   #43
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And you say they “looked like good kids” based on... what exactly?

They were out having fun where they weren’t supposed to and endangering others. They should experience the consequences of their actions.
They "looked" like good kids because they were wearing proper gear, their bikes looked well maintained and they friggin walked their bikes for the guy! I know plenty of punks that would have told the guy to fuck off then roosted mud in his face.
As far as them endangering people...who's to say they were going any faster than someone on a mountain bike?...I would have been bombing down that trail on my downhill bike faster than the average dirtbiker.
They DID experience the consequences of their actions when the guy dealt with them and likely won't go there again. Getting the police involved and possible felony charges is unnecessary overkill for the situation.
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Old 02-13-2019, 04:37 PM   #44
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They sure do look like kids.

They probably will get in more trouble than riding on sidewalks in SF.
Bummer they may have to face that.

If it floats the MTB's boat to nail 'em (which it looks like) then so be it.

No props from me though..
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This is quite telling, in that all trail users need to pay attention, and share.

We are all equal. The horses are kinda a bit destructive tho.

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