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Old 11-13-2018, 10:50 AM   #1
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Would you ride your moto to evac out of a wildfire area?

I've been thinking about this a bit after hearing stories, and seeing the photos of lines of cars escaping the Malibu fires.

On one hand, it might make sense to have something small and maneuverable to navigate through traffic. I have enough topcase/sidecase storage that I can take clothes for days and the important stuff (paperwork, family stuff, etc). On the other hand, fire is hot and who knows how close you could have to get near it to get out - seeing some of the vids, being on a bike could be like being a two-wheeled marshmallow riding through a campfire, getting a nice roasting inside your gear and helmet. Not to mention smoke.
And, riding through traffic during an evac means riding through a swath of cars that are driven by panicked, stressed, and frightened people, and if something happened to you, first responders are already tied up with the fires.

The other option is dirt bike and just avoid roads as best as you can, but storage might be limited unless you have the bags and a good backpack. Tradeoff is, you can go anywhere.

Sorry if it comes off as morbid, but I've been giving it thought if I got a call to evac - car or moto?
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:57 AM   #2
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:01 AM   #3
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My desire to learn to ride was partially fueled by the fantasy of escaping post-apocalyptic traffic jams on a moto.
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:08 AM   #4
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Ok good, I'm not the only one who has entertained this idea.

Fire and smoke inhalation make it seem like it might be dangerous (but when is motorcycling NOT), but then again, trapped in a car in traffic with fires (like I've been reading about in Paradise) seems like a nightmarish scenario - not like you can get out and escape on foot easily.
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:10 AM   #5
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It would totally depend on the situation.
For example.....I love my motorcycle(s) but would never leave my dog behind.
(ex-wife=completely different story)
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:29 AM   #6
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Yikes, life and death situations are tough, good to think about it ahead of time (so thanks for bringing it up, I never thought about moto’ing out)

My first thoughts…
Looking at some of the scariest evacuation videos on the news lately, with burning embers bouncing off windshields: no way would I want to be on any of my motos.

Stories of drivers who cant even see the tail lights of the car in front through all the smoke: no way

Stories where the tail lights of the cars were melting: no way

Trying to blaze a trail through the santa cruz mountains on my dirt bike? No way, unless it is on a trail better than a deer trail (maybe blaze a trail on my trials bike, but the brush is pretty thick around my house.)

But yeah, this is assuming I'm the only one home, and my dog and cat don't need rescue.
I would also prefer to be in a vehicle where I could pick up any stranded neighbors on my way out.

So yeah, highly unlikely I would hop on one of my motos

(hopping in my Ford PSD 4x4 crew cab with my 29' toyhauler attached, loaded to the gills with everything I own is my first choice, but that's assuming I have some time)
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:29 AM   #7
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My desire to learn to ride was partially fueled by the fantasy of escaping post-apocalyptic traffic jams on a moto.
Only If one of those impatient evacuee's didn't run you over first.
We all see what they do on a daily basis around here.
Multiply that by 100 and the chances of escape gets even slimmer.
Id take my Brodozer and my dog and put the moto in the back.
Still need to have a way to take Rover with me once the truck is no longer useful.

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Old 11-13-2018, 11:47 AM   #8
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I’d be on my bike in a heart beat. All that other crap is replaceable. Anything that isn’t breathing is left behind.

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Old 11-13-2018, 12:12 PM   #9
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The people that perished in their vehicles solidified my resolve to evac via motorcycle in the event of a disaster in my city. Those poor souls were trapped because the average car driver is shit.

I can't think of many better vehicles suited to sub/urban escape than a 701 supermoto.... maybe a KLR since those will outlive cockroaches
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:26 PM   #10
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The people that perished in their vehicles solidified my resolve to evac via motorcycle in the event of a disaster in my city. Those poor souls were trapped because the average car driver is shit.

I can't think of many better vehicles suited to sub/urban escape than a 701 supermoto.... maybe a KLR since those will outlive cockroaches
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:32 PM   #11
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I disagree. If I have to flee through heavy smoke, flying embers and flames on either side of the road, I want to have glass and steel surrounding me. The people that perished in their cages did not perish because they were stuck in traffic, they perished because they either turned down a dead end road or were lost.
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:36 PM   #12
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Every situation will be different. Inside a car with a cabin air filter will provide a lot better air to breath than sitting on a motorcycle.
A motorcycle is a better choice until it isn't.
Hopefully people have learned from this and as soon as a threat is realized they move out by whatever means is fastest.
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:38 PM   #13
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Every situation will be different. Inside a car with a cabin air filter will provide a lot better air to breath than sitting on a motorcycle.
A motorcycle is a better choice until it isn't.
Hopefully people have learned from this and as soon as a threat is realized they move out by whatever means is fastest.
For sure.

Are you stuck because of traffic, whereas a bike would have time to split through and GTFO before the flames arrived? Is everything already on fire, and you require a cage around you to provide slightly cleaner air to breathe, and to keep the smoke out of your eyes etc etc.... on relatively open roads?

It all depends.

I can see situations where either could save your life.
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:52 PM   #14
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I thought this until we worked the fires (LEO)...

Now, as much as I love my motos, i will always want to be in a cage if I have to drive through flames and embers.
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:58 PM   #15
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A third option for me is the cage + my folding bicycle in the trunk. If traffic stopped I would have a way to get moving again, but would have to abandon the car to do it.
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