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Old 01-10-2019, 01:53 PM   #31
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New traffic fine rules were release on January 1, 2019:

If you Forgot to carry your driver's license it is $214.
Forgot to change the address (more than ten days) $214.
If your car is Uninsured and you are in a car accident, car it is $796 ‘and’ your driver's license is revoked for 4 years.

If you Did Not stop at a red light or before turning right and at a No Turn on Red it is $533.
Crossing double yellow line for $425.
Violation of the turn or U-turn $284.
Speeding 1-15 miles $224 16-25 miles $338, usually the police determined that speeding is over 5 miles.

On rainy day it is not allowed to exceed 65 miles.

NOT Stopping at a stop sign it is $284.
Passing the flashing light of school bus it is $675.
Talking on cell phone, the first time, it is $76, the second time $190, and it is the same penalty even if you are just holding the cell phone in your hand!

Did NOT Stop at a bus stop $976.
Not wearing a seat belt $160.
Driving with high beam light (from 30 points) for $382.
Child did not wear a seat belt or not in a child seat $436. Covering car door $178. Driving with headphones on $178.

All the above violations allow you to go to traffic school for 8 hours.
If you get a second ticket within 18 months, sorry, you are not a Good Driver and this will drive up your insurance rate

Please be careful everyone!
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So are these base costs minus other fees that may be tacked on or the overall fees?
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Old 01-10-2019, 02:03 PM   #32
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Let us not forget the pièce de résistance... $1000 non correctable fine for aftermarket exhaust. (Go sign the petition)

http://www.thedrive.com/news/25799/c...ine-you-for-it

https://www.change.org/p/nullify-fin...-in-california
I thought the way the law was written, this new piece only covers autos and not trucks and motorcycles?

The noise restriction portion has been in place since the 70's, I believe. Regardless, do they even have a method to test db levels?
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Old 01-10-2019, 02:11 PM   #33
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If your car is Uninsured and you are in a car accident, car it is $796 ‘and’ your driver's license is revoked for 4 years.
only if your vehicle is disabled and you can't drive/get away.
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Old 01-10-2019, 02:27 PM   #34
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Let us not forget the pièce de résistance... $1000 non correctable fine for aftermarket exhaust. (Go sign the petition)

http://www.thedrive.com/news/25799/c...ine-you-for-it

https://www.change.org/p/nullify-fin...-in-california
I don't think it's aftermarket exhaust. I think it is only excessively loud exhaust like over 95db. Otherwise the aftermarket will go out of business. I think they merely changed the law where they can just straight up give you a citation instead of a fix it ticket if you are popped with a loud exhaust. I hope they are carrying db meters to prove it's excessively loud.

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Old 01-10-2019, 02:41 PM   #35
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So are these base costs minus other fees that may be tacked on or the overall fees?
Yes.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:08 PM   #36
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1. Not carrying your license on you wastes your time while the officer has to try and look it up.

2. Most people I've encountered who do not carry ID on them do not want to be identified because they have a warrant or their license is suspended.

3. Even if you have a valid license, I may not be able to find it in the system because the name you give me is too common, or slightly off from what the name on your license is.

4. The database goes down regularly, preventing any look ups.

5. We can't look up insurance in the system.
6. Not all police cars have computers to look up information.

7. Sometimes technology fails and the computer doesn’t work.

8. Police motorcycles don’t have computers.

9. It is against the law to present a suspended license to an officer. When a driver presents to a police officer a license that is suspended, the officer is required to collect the driver license and send it back to DMV.

10. Etc....

There are dozens of reasons.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:34 PM   #37
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10. Etc....

There are dozens of reasons.
Three more and you would have had a dozen here.

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Old 01-10-2019, 03:42 PM   #38
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anybody else can update speeding ticket prices at(or near) the airports?
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(92m/h). reduced to 85.
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Seems to me the OP was offering the list as genuine, helpful information.

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9. It is against the law to present a suspended license to an officer. When a driver presents to a police officer a license that is suspended, the officer is required to collect the driver license and send it back to DMV.
Are you supposed to surrender a suspended license to the DMV? Can a suspended license be used for ID? If you're stopped with a suspended license, can you say "no, I can't give you my license" even if you're carrying it?

The way I understand it is that IF you carry your license (or State ID), you are obligated to turn it over on request by a peace officer. However, you are not required to carry it at all (if you're not driving).
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:14 PM   #39
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I thought the way the law was written, this new piece only covers autos and not trucks and motorcycles?

The noise restriction portion has been in place since the 70's, I believe. Regardless, do they even have a method to test db levels?
AB1824 affects motorcycles too. No db meter; it's at the officer's discretion.

"Certain vehicle exhaust violations no longer correctable (AB 1824, Committee on Budget): A fine will become mandatory, not correctable, when loud motor vehicles and motorcycles are cited. Previously, a driver or motorcyclist who was cited for modified or excessively loud exhaust or muffler systems could correct the violation to avoid a fine."

https://www.chp.ca.gov/PressReleases..._laws_2019.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuFT...H8T6OrlB61Ugv4
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:37 PM   #40
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AB1824 affects motorcycles too. No db meter; it's at the officer's discretion.

"Certain vehicle exhaust violations no longer correctable (AB 1824, Committee on Budget): A fine will become mandatory, not correctable, when loud motor vehicles and motorcycles are cited. Previously, a driver or motorcyclist who was cited for modified or excessively loud exhaust or muffler systems could correct the violation to avoid a fine."

https://www.chp.ca.gov/PressReleases..._laws_2019.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuFT...H8T6OrlB61Ugv4
Here's how I think this revision to the law will affect bikes:

Edit: much of what I said about the actual law, after reading the CVC, I've learned was I correct.

The upshot of my earlier post was that the cops weren't enforcing exhaust laws on bikes all that diligently because the fixit ticket was cheap and people would just remedy to get out of the fine and then re-modify to back the way they wanted. Now there is actually money in it for the gov so they will go ahead and fine.

There appear to be more complications about how the laws are violated depending on year of the bike, and the role of the cop in determining a violation relative to the ref. It looks like a crafty attorney could compose evidence that "might" be able to overcome a citation in court. Of course, an obviously modified exhaust, missing the cat and/or missing the fed compliance label, or a bike affixed with a "race use only/not for road use" observed by the cop would be difficult evidence to overcome.

In the end, it would probably just be easier and cheaper to pay the fine than to try to find another "out" if they clearly getcha!

Another thing I'm not sure of is where people get this $1000 figure I keep seeing thrown around. It looks like the total fine would depend on the number of violations (e.g. noise/decibal violation, modification violation, emissions violation).

I nearly bought a bike this week with a highly modified exhaust before learning about this new bill today. Dammit, the pipes sounded so good, too!


Note: I'm not an attorney and nothing I say is legal advice.

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10. Your DL has a magnetic strip in it, which can be swiped and read by some MDTs and e-cite books to quickly load information.

11. Even if an officer has an MDT with data access, he might be away from the car and need to identify someone.

12. Some people are deaf/mute or speak another language and the officer might not be able to obtain identifying information simply by talking to the driver.

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Old 01-10-2019, 05:46 PM   #42
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:16 PM   #44
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Cell phone fine the cheapest, even less than failing to change your address? God help us....
Read the entire thread.

Not only is the OP false, but 14600(a) VC (changing address within 10 days) is a correctable violation subject to a $25 service fee upon proof of correction.

The Uniform Bail Schedule for all traffic violations is posted online every year.

http://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/2...?1546290674434
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Another thing I'm not sure of is where people get this $1000 figure I keep seeing thrown around. It looks like the total fine would depend on the number of violations (e.g. noise/decibal violation, modification violation, emissions violation).
Edited a bit of your post but the $1000 figure that is being thrown around is because of an instagram video of a person getting pulled over (Original video posted 12/22 but for some reason people keep re-posting it as for 2019 law) and they were getting an $1000 ticket. They didn't really specify what the violation was (some said it was just because of it being a loud exhaust but I doubt that)
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