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Old 02-18-2019, 12:20 PM   #16
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I had two TL's. One with stock clipons and one with helibars. The helibars were just an inch or so higher and back but way more comfortable.
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Old 02-18-2019, 12:41 PM   #17
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You lost me at "risers" on a GSXR.
(that's what Bandits and 'Stoms are for)
Now now, there are Z900ís & GSXFís, too....
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Old 02-18-2019, 03:51 PM   #18
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Too bad loumc retired from BARF. He'd have this guy's back!

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Old 02-18-2019, 04:49 PM   #19
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Along with free play, make sure you have no kink in the clutch cable. Look at the routing and make sure there is nothing obstructing cable travel.
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Old 02-18-2019, 06:31 PM   #20
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Along with free play, make sure you have no kink in the clutch cable. Look at the routing and make sure there is nothing obstructing cable travel.
It could be "stuck" in the shielding, pardon the expression.
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Old 02-18-2019, 07:19 PM   #21
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Everyone keeps talking about "free play" but forget to mention that it is adjusted in two places... in the lever / cable, AND at the throw out mechanism.

It is possible to have ample free play in the cable and lever, but no free play in the throw out mechanism.

So be sure to check BOTH.

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Old 02-18-2019, 07:54 PM   #22
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Iím not familiar with how to do this. What do you mean exactly?
Free play is the amount of travel in the clutch lever BEFORE it starts to disengage the clutch. You should be able to pull the clutch lever in about a quarter of an inch before you start to feel the tension of the clutch. In a nutshell it should be a little loose as it sits in it's resting position as the clutch cable should not have any tension on it. Screwing the adjuster into the clutch perch gives you more free play.
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:23 PM   #23
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Turned out to be a combination of the free play and throttle adjustment. Adjusted the free play at the clutch itself with the barrel adjustment, and also freed up some cable by adjusting on the engine end of the cable. Also needed to mess with the throttle adjustment. Feels perfect now. Thanks for the help everyone 🙏🏼
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Turned out to be a combination of the free play and throttle adjustment. Adjusted the free play at the clutch itself with the barrel adjustment, and also freed up some cable by adjusting on the engine end of the cable. Also needed to mess with the throttle adjustment. Feels perfect now. Thanks for the help everyone 🙏🏼
so basically exactly what you have to do when you install risers... got it
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Old 02-19-2019, 11:29 AM   #25
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Old 02-19-2019, 11:39 AM   #26
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Old 02-19-2019, 11:54 AM   #27
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its sometimes cheaper to modify an existing bike rather than buying a whole new bike.
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You lost me at "risers" on a GSXR.
(that's what Bandits and 'Stoms are for)
Um, no.

Risers are for whatever bike you decide to put them on.
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Um, no.

Risers are for whatever bike you decide to put them on.
Unless it's a Early 2000s R1...too much fiddling for the eventual outcome. Also, F4i can be difficult to install risers or higher bars.

Some bikes have so little extra space that it's not worth the hassle.
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Old 02-19-2019, 04:22 PM   #30
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Um, no.

Risers are for whatever bike you decide to put them on.
I don't claim to be smarter than the engineers. They put that thing together that way for a reason.
There's something to be said for the right tool for the job.
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